California Rankings

Joe_Ross · March 11, 2013, 7:53pm

As of Week 2, there are 94 California teams that have competed. I used the FiM ranking calculation and applied it to California teams.

I hope to do this each week. Because teams compete in different number of events, I plan to include both the team’s highest event and their average number of points. At this point, no CA team has competed in more then one event, so it’s not necessary. I’m including any team from CA, even if they compete in event(s) outside CA.

Here’s the scoring system, from the FiM Rules Supplement

***POINT CATEGORY POINTS 					POINTS 		***
**Win-Loss Record in Qualifying Rounds** 							
Win 							2
Tie 							1
**Final Alliance Captains After Picking** 							
#1 Alliance Captain 					16		
#2 Alliance Captain 					15		
#3 Alliance Captain down to #8 Alliance Captain 	14 down to 9 		
**Draft Order by Acceptance 	**						
#1 Draft Pick (Accepted) 				16			
#2 Draft Pick (Accepted) 				15			
#3Draft Pick down to #16 Draft Pick 			14 down to 1 				
**Elimination Round Performance 	**						
*Winning Alliance Teams: 	*						
Alliance Captain and First Pick				30			
Second Pick						24	
*Finalist Alliance Teams: 	*						
Alliance Captain and First Pick				20			
Second Pick						16	
*Semi Finalist Alliance Teams:* 							
Alliance Captain and First Pick				10			
Second Pick						8	
**Awards** 							
Industrial Design 					5		
Quality 						5	
Excellence in Engineering 				5			
Innovation in Control 					5		
Creativity 						5	
Entrepreneurship 					5		
Team Spirit 						2	
Gracious Professionalism 				2			
Imagery 						2	
Highest Rookie Seed 					2		
Industrial Safety 					2		
Judges Award 						2	
Rookie Inspiration 					2

Congratulations to 1678 to being the highest ranked team in California after week 2. Here are the results:

Rank	Team	Points
1	1678	68
2	254	61
3	840	59
4	2485	57
5	3501	56
6	3970	54
7	2984	52
8	295	51
9	1538	48
10	399	45
11	3476	42
12	973	41
12	701	41
12	589	41
15	1323	39
16	670	36
17	1138	34
18	1458	33
19	2643	31
19	4322	31
21	4583	30
22	1967	29
22	192	29
24	1671	28
25	4014	27
26	1159	26
27	294	25
27	1422	25
27	4159	25
30	649	24
31	599	23
31	3303	23
33	3495	22
33	4135	22
35	2827	21
35	3669	21
37	2496	20
38	3256	19
38	841	19
38	2543	19
38	4139	19
42	2339	18
42	3925	18
44	2493	16
44	3255	16
46	2135	13
46	4486	13
48	812	12
48	1266	12
48	2102	12
48	3041	12
48	4543	12
48	4695	12
54	1700	11
55	1280	10
55	1622	10
55	1197	10
55	2085	10
55	2813	10
55	3189	10
55	3250	10
55	3486	10
55	3647	10
55	3965	10
55	4619	10
55	4738	10
67	675	8
67	702	8
67	980	8
67	1515	8
67	1572	8
67	2029	8
67	2193	8
67	2761	8
67	3021	8
67	3341	8
67	3408	8
67	3704	8
67	3849	8
67	3952	8
67	4616	8
82	1160	6
82	2658	6
82	2839	6
82	3453	6
82	3749	6
82	4160	6
82	4161	6
82	4711	6
90	581	4
90	1661	4
90	3128	4
90	3967	4
90	4785	4

Let me know if you find any errors.

Eugene_Fang · March 11, 2013, 8:13pm

This is cool stuff. Though I’ve looked at it in the past, I’m not too familiar with the FiM scoring system. Is there no point value associated with RCA, EI, and RAS?

EricH · March 11, 2013, 8:18pm

Nope. Those awards send the team to MSC, but without the robot (unless the robot qualifies too, which often happens).

Allison_K · March 11, 2013, 8:45pm

I think that was the case in the first year of districts, but at this point District Chairman’s award teams compete at states with their robot, regardless of other points. Engineering Inspiration and Rookie All Star at district level don’t automatically qualify a team for states with their robot, but only district winners are eligible to win the state level award.

ENeyman · March 11, 2013, 9:06pm

This seems strange, it almost seems more advantageous to win the Rookie Inspiration Award than the Rookie All Star Award.

Michael_Corsetto · March 11, 2013, 9:27pm

This is really cool, thanks for putting this together Joe! I’m excited to see 1678 in the #1 spot, they’ve come a long way and have a bright future ahead of them!

Also, I haven’t seen this mentioned on CD, but California FIRST is posting a California Top 20 after each week of regionals. You can check it out here. These rankings are poll-based, but kind of fun nonetheless.

Getting pumped for the week 4 CA events!

-Mike

Steven_Sigley · March 11, 2013, 9:31pm

Well dang this is cool. Helps me see what it would be like if California changed to FiC. It’s also interesting comparing the opinion polls posted by Mike Corsetto with the FiM rankings.

Big thumbs up for this!

Joe_Ross · March 11, 2013, 9:46pm

I considered adding in points for those awards, but ultimately decided not to, so that the results can be compared to FiM/MAR.

Lil_Lavery · March 11, 2013, 10:00pm

There are those who feel very strongly that assigning some sort of point value to these awards, particularly the Chairman’s Award, would go against everything FIRST stands for. To say that the Chairman’s Award is equivalent to X matches won defeats the intent of the award.

dcarr · March 11, 2013, 10:01pm

When not if

Coming next year or the year after, I don’t recall off the top of my head.

Cory · March 11, 2013, 10:39pm

Not next year.

xSAWxBLADEx · March 11, 2013, 10:42pm

It would be FiNC, and FiSC. (Southern and Nothern)

dcarr · March 11, 2013, 10:42pm

Ok. I didn’t make it to the meeting that was held so I just got the cliff notes.

Steven_Sigley · March 12, 2013, 12:12am

I’m not so sure they’d split California, I’ve imagined the whole state would be lumped with Nevada and Hawaii.
And when CA gets the district model do you imagine the championships would be held at Silicon Valley or somewhere else?

Cory · March 12, 2013, 12:22am

I don’t believe the plan involves NV or HI right now, at least as FIRST sees it. I know the Hawaii teams want to be able to play here (and the Nevada teams too I’m sure). The teams in our area seemed to support making that happen, but HQ did not seem too keen on that plan.

MrTechCenter · March 12, 2013, 12:45am

Aren’t there a handful of teams from Australia that go to Hawaii? If there was a CA-NEV-HA system, they would have to be included as well, which is one reason that an integrated system might be complicated.

Zebra_Fact_Man · March 12, 2013, 1:25pm

Looking forward to the day when district points are interchangeable from region to region (you go where ever you want to and the points you accumulate add up regardless).

Joe_Ross · March 18, 2013, 12:40pm

Only one team from California played in week 3, team 1836 traveling all the way to Israel. Here are the updated rankings.

Rank	Team	Points
1	1678	68
2	254	61
3	840	59
4	2485	57
5	3501	56
6	3970	54
7	2984	52
8	295	51
9	1538	48
10	399	45
11	3476	42
12	589	41
12	701	41
12	973	41
15	1323	39
16	670	36
17	1138	34
18	1458	33
19	2643	31
19	4322	31
21	4583	30
22	192	29
22	1967	29
24	1671	28
25	4014	27
26	1159	26
27	294	25
27	1422	25
27	4159	25
30	649	24
31	599	23
31	3303	23
33	3495	22
33	4135	22
35	1836	21
35	2827	21
35	3669	21
38	2496	20
39	841	19
39	2543	19
39	3256	19
39	4139	19
43	2339	18
43	3925	18
45	2493	16
45	3255	16
47	2135	13
47	4486	13
49	812	12
49	1266	12
49	2102	12
49	3041	12
49	4543	12
49	4695	12
55	1700	11
56	1197	10
56	1280	10
56	1622	10
56	2085	10
56	2813	10
56	3189	10
56	3250	10
56	3486	10
56	3647	10
56	3965	10
56	4619	10
56	4738	10
68	675	8
68	702	8
68	980	8
68	1515	8
68	1572	8
68	2029	8
68	2193	8
68	2761	8
68	3021	8
68	3341	8
68	3408	8
68	3704	8
68	3849	8
68	3952	8
68	4616	8
83	1160	6
83	2658	6
83	2839	6
83	3453	6
83	3749	6
83	4160	6
83	4161	6
83	4711	6
91	581	4
91	1661	4
91	3128	4
91	3967	4
91	4785	4

Jaxom · March 18, 2013, 12:46pm

I started to do this for MO & KS teams but gave up because I didn’t have time to slog through all of the various places I’d need to get all of the information. Do you have a convenient source of data all in one place, or reasonably automatic?

Ed_Law · March 18, 2013, 12:53pm

Joe,

In Michigan, we only count the first two district events for points.