DOES ANYONE KNOW IF A N64 CONTROLLER IS ALLOWED TO BE USED TO CONTROL THE ROBOT??? 
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As long as you know how to wire it properly, then yes you canā¦
This doesnāt belong in this forum, though.
I donāt think soā¦its not a standard (15 pin?) joystick that uses the standard joystick port (ie you canāt use USB joysticks either).
I would ask FIRST to be sure.
*Originally posted by Harrison *
**I donāt think soā¦its not a standard (15 pin?) joystick that uses the standard joystick port (ie you canāt use USB joysticks either).I would ask FIRST to be sure. **
I think you can cut and try to figure out where the wires would be connected on the 15 pin connectorā¦it would be an interesting project even if this was illegalā¦
There is nothing in the rules that says you cant, but as Harrison said, ask FIRST
And please, keep your questions calmer. All caps, bold, underline, emotions donāt make for faster responses.
As long as you can wire it properly I can only assume that it will be allowed.
*Originally posted by Harrison *
**I donāt think soā¦its not a standard (15 pin?) joystick that uses the standard joystick port (ie you canāt use USB joysticks either).I would ask FIRST to be sure. **
you can, weāve made our own custom controls the past 3 years
*Originally posted by David Kelly *
**you can, weāve made our own custom controls the past 3 years **
Well, there ya go.
There is a big difference from making your own custom controls and modifying an off the shelf joystick/gamepad.
Look at the restricted parts list. It says that joysticks, etc must use a 15 pin interface. In my mind, this means that you may not use a modified n64 controller.
Ask FIRST, though
Edit: see this thread for clarification: http://jive.ilearning.com/thread.jsp?forum=3&thread=1009&message=2383
Yeahā¦ even betterā¦
Use a old Nintendo, and put of OI in the shell of the system (Remove other components). Then use the super pad, or the standard controllers for controls. It would be awesomeā¦ I got the idea after seeing this guy turn his Nintendo into a computer:
the way all nintendo control devices send data is not in a form the OI can handle easily, a constant ātickā is sent through one wire to sync the controller circitry to the box, data is then transmitted in a pseudo-compressed binary stream over another cable, the box interpets that data and does what it needs to do. The OI canāt really handle that without some decently complex electronic work, it would prolly be easier to make a custom board
even if you could sync with the controller and get the data, you still have more to do. When the box starts up, it recieves data telling it what the controller does. Look it up online, there is a lot of docs on the subject. The timing is the real problem.
Ithought about doing this with something simpler, and i think the only controller that could easily synk with the OI, is old sega controllers (if i remember corectly, the master system and saturn controllers could work), they donāt use the timing/stream type system, each wire is normally set to a button.
I really donāt know if itās allowed, but i dont particularly care, we have custom circutry.
You could always tear apart the controller and remove all the elcronics then replave the pots and sitches with your won, it would be legal and youād get around nintendoās IO format.
we had the idea of using a game cube controller this year, but our team had much more important things to worry aboutā¦like wiring the ROBOT!
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Use the GameCube controller over the N64. It has two controll sticks over the N64ās.
*Originally posted by JosephM *
**Use the GameCube controller over the N64. It has two controll sticks over the N64ās. **
Not to mention the comfort aspect.
This idea brings to mind another question: It WOULD be against the rules to use a Wavebird, right?:yikes:
Mine team asked FIRST if we can use a controller from playstation and they said no because must video game controllers are not 15 pins
*Originally posted by ronnie_82 *
**Mine team asked FIRST if we can use a controller from playstation and they said no because must video game controllers are not 15 pins **
I think the PS controller is digital output (or the old ones are), so that would be out of the question, but if you can make a 15-pin GCN or N64 controller, I would pay you to ship me one and pay for the cost of the controller and conversion.
Mine team asked FIRST if we can use a controller from playstation and they said no because must video game controllers are not 15 pins
Thats odd because I rember somewhere on another forum someone once said they saw an andvertisement from IFI that said you could use a playstation controller.
ā¦amount of ignoranceā¦astoundingā¦
Okay:
- How many analogs there are on a controller shouldnāt be the sole source of its selectionāthe largest consideration should be ease of the conversion to 15 pin.
- Unless they changed it, thereās still that $100 electronics limit that still applies to controls. Keep that in mind if Iām right on that one.
- Just use a controller designed for 15 pins. My Axis Pad has served me quite well, and should address all of your control issues.
If the N64 controler is hard to modify, what about PS2? It only has 9 pins on the connector so I would think that it was digital, but I am just guessingā¦ Does anybody know if it would be possable to use it?
Also, I saw an add once that advertised using a PSX (PS1) controler on a small robot. Would that work?
In both cases I assume that an interface box would have to be built. Any information at all would be helpfulā¦ -Jacob
Confucius says: āPINS MEAN NOTHING!ā
The OI cannot accept data from the following without external cuircutry: any sony playstation controller, any Nintendo controllers, any sega controller created after saturn, xbox, and newer versions of atari.
It can kinda accept the following: old atari (joystick style), older sega controllers. That is it! no more! (at least fromt eh console market)
read my last post, iām not crazy.
Please note, you can use some of the others, but you would need external custom circutry. And i donāt mean some soldering of a couple wires, i mean a small control board at least the size of a playing card, with much design and implementation work. ā Get over it, it doesnāt work!
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neo geo controllers are perfect, they have everything and are simple, you need only do some minor soldering to get them to work.
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