So today’s blog post said that Championship Waitlist opens today. However, when I log into my dashboard the FIRST Championship does not even appear as an event option to even get on the waitlist. Am I missing something?
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The same thing happens to me. First-year lead mentor so any veteran help is appreciated.
@Ryan_Swanson I’ve been getting that 400 error from time-to-time. I click the browser Back button, click LOG IN again, and it takes me straight to the dashboard. Weird that LOG IN doesn’t change to LOG OUT 
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I just tried and got in and added as waitlist. Hopefully they’re just running slow on some servers.
I logged in and the event showed up after 12 noon PST
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Question: Doesn’t the reduction in champs size and the new rules for “priority waitlist” effectively render the “open waitlist” into a wish exercise?? Am I missing something?
Yes, especially since the wildcards can flow down all the way to 4th place finishers – which I expect we will see in week 6 dues to teams that have to opt out of champs for logistical reasons. The odds that they flow past 12 or 16 teams seems pretty unlikely. If your team is near Houston it’s a great year to have picked a week 6 competition.
Yes, but people drop. A week 1 wildcard who registers and pays, but three weeks later realizes they can’t make it, may produce a waitlist spot. Very much a longshot. Even back in the 2-champs days we only got two waitlist invites.
Not in California. The Wildcard slots generated in 2023 would now be distributed
approximately as shown below - almost equal to the number of qualification slots lost
due to the new rules. Only 2 CA events generated 3 WC’s this year, and the furthest
they went to was 3 on the distribution list. They could extend the list to the last rank
team at the event. It will make no difference.
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I appears you are assuming that no teams “nope out”, which I expect to see in week 6. But we shall see.
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OK. Maybe so. But I don’t think there was a single drop from CA this year (that I know of). And I also think everyone who qualified actually registered and attended. But, as usual I may be wrong.
PS it was great seeing your team at TT last week.
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Las Vegas Regional (week 5 2023) went slightly farther. A1 won without callling a backup. Captain 359 and 1st pick 4270 had already qualified at Hawaii Regional, generating 2 wildcards. Their 2nd pick 9287 won RAS, so the wildcards skipped them. Finalist captain 987 was prequalified by HOF, so the two wildcards went to 6995 and 968, and all 6 robots ended up getting a spot at champs, with only two wildcards generated. Under the new rules, this (admittedly unlikely) situation would still end up sending all of alliance 1 and the captain and first pick of the finalist alliance.
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If a qualifying team cannot attend championship does that become a wild card for a team at that event or just random team from the priority waitlist? I always thought, perhaps incorrectly, it was the latter.
By my count, only three teams that earned a championship spot at a US regional declined the invitation (9 including international regionals).
It is the latter- wildcards are only generated once at the end of the event
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By my back of the napkin math, there will actually be more waitlist teams called this year, rather than less. Why? Let’s break it down. By removing 1 champs bid per regional, a total of 64 slots are open, and 19 need to be reduced (leaving 45 slots remaining). Last year, 39 of the 64 regionals generated a wildcard. That means, there will be about 24 additional teams on the priority waitlist that will take from our remaining 45 slots. This will leave about 21 slots left over, presumably for the waitlist. This is before we see wether or not they reduce the amount of qualifications there will be from districts (I presume there will be a reduction, as opposed to mass outcry about fairness from all regional teams). Assuming they cut the 39 slots that regionals cut (Total Slots Cut minus Teams utilizing priority waitlist) as districts are about 50% of FRCFIRST Robotics Competition teams, you are now looking at 60 remaining open slots. The numbers are just weird enough that it hurts nearly all teams qualifying the legitimate route, but seems to increase typical waitlist odds. Someone here can correct my math. Stats obtained from frcFIRST Robotics Competition.divisions.co
I think the thing to note here is that waitlist odds are going up because more people are going on the waitlist. If qualifying for worlds meant qualifying for the waitlist you’d see a massive increase in waitlist odds. This isn’t that, but I think that’s more what’s happening.
not the priority waitlist, the open waitlist. this math assumes an exhausted priority waitlist (that all teams that manage to get onto the priority waitlist get into champs)
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