ChatGPT for strategy on kickoff

Do you think ChatGPT has a place for being used on kickoff for strategy? This is what I got for the 2023 gane:

Scoring Overview for One Team

  1. Mobility: 3 points during AUTO for leaving the community.
  2. Game Pieces:
  • Bottom Row: 3 points in AUTO, 2 in TELEOP.
  • Middle Row: 4 points in AUTO, 3 in TELEOP.
  • Top Row: 6 points in AUTO, 5 in TELEOP.
  1. Link: 5 points for 3 adjacent nodes in a row containing scored game pieces.
  2. Charge Station Scoring:
  • Docked (not Engaged): 8 points in AUTO, 6 in TELEOP.
  • Docked and Engaged: 12 points in AUTO, 10 in TELEOP.
  1. Park: 2 points for parking in the community.
  2. Supercharged Node: 3 points each in TELEOP.
  3. Sustainability Bonus: Not applicable for individual team scoring.

Low Tier Team

  • Mobility: 3 points (likely).
  • Game Pieces: Focus on Bottom Row; estimate 2 scored in AUTO and 3 in TELEOP (12 points).
  • Charge Station: Docking attempt; estimate 1 successful Dock (not Engaged) in TELEOP (6 points).
  • Total Score Estimate: 21 MATCH points.

Mid Tier Team

  • Mobility: 3 points.
  • Game Pieces: Mixed focus; estimate 2 in Middle Row in AUTO and 3 across Bottom/Middle Rows in TELEOP (15 points).
  • Charge Station: Docking attempt; estimate 1 successful Dock (Engaged) in TELEOP (10 points).
  • Link: Possible but not guaranteed.
  • Total Score Estimate: 28 MATCH points.

High Tier Team

  • Mobility: 3 points.
  • Game Pieces: Focus on Middle and Top Rows; estimate 3 in Top Row in AUTO and 3 in Middle/Top Rows in TELEOP (24 points).
  • Charge Station: Aim for Docking and Engaging; 1 successful Dock (Engaged) in TELEOP (10 points).
  • Link and Supercharged Node: Likely to achieve.
  • Total Score Estimate: 37+ MATCH points.

This is what it originally gave me before I asked for it to only breakdown the strategy for 1 team:

Low Tier Teams

  • Mobility: Likely to achieve this with all robots (3 x 3 = 9 points).
  • Game Pieces: Focus on Bottom and Middle Rows; estimate 5 game pieces scored (15 points).
  • Charge Station: Likely Docked (not Engaged); estimate 1 robot succeeds (6 points).
  • Total Score Estimate: 30 MATCH points.

Mid Tier Teams

  • Mobility: All robots (9 points).
  • Game Pieces: Balanced focus; estimate 7 game pieces scored across rows (24 points).
  • Charge Station: Mix of Docked and Engaged; estimate 2 robots succeed (16 points).
  • Link: Likely to achieve at least one link (5 points).
  • Total Score Estimate: 54 MATCH points.

High Tier Teams

  • Mobility: All robots (9 points).
  • Game Pieces: Focus on Middle and Top Rows; estimate 10 game pieces scored (45 points).
  • Charge Station: Aim for Docked and Engaged; estimate 2 robots succeed (20 points).
  • Link and Supercharged Node: Likely to achieve multiple links and supercharged nodes (additional points).
  • Total Score Estimate: 74+ MATCH points.

What was the prompt? IIRC ChatGPT was last updated in January 2022 (at least the 3.5 version).

No. A scoring calculator will tell me the same thing.

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I’m using GPT 4, I basically uploaded the pdf, it then did a basic analysis of the pdf but had trouble finding the points section so I pointed it to the right page and then asked it to give me a strategy with the amount of points scored for a low tier, mid tier, and high tier team.

What would El Jeffe do?

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I need ChiefDelphi denizens to tell me the answer.

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Peak frc design brainrot is getting a robot to make all the strategic decisions for another robot

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Now do that with chat gpt and how first choice should be fixed…

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It’s an LLM, not a quantum computer.

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Danger Will Robinson, Danger!

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Fun facts…

Robbie the robot originated in Forbidden Planet.

More fun:

The film’s soundtrack was so forward thinking it effectively is the first fully electronic film soundtrack and broke a bunch of concepts and ideas at the time.

More fun:

Marshall (hey, that’s me) got the soundtrack as a Christmas gift from a professor in college for helping them break copyright laws to show a German film in class with English subtitles.

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Ive used ChatGPT for many FIRST related things and I will say it is no match for people who know the facts. It’s better than nothing, but you and your own team will do a much better job.

For example even using a much smaller fake game, it still was missing critical components of the game and mixing up terminology.

This is about as good of an analysis as I would expect from someone glancing the rules but not studying them in depth. Essentially that’s what the LLM is doing really with your uploaded PDFs. If it’s incredibly long it will not be able to recover each and every detail and will have to go back and be pointed to specific sections. Robot Construction rules in the official manual is 38 pages. There’s just too much data there for it to know what’s actually important.

What it is better at is helping you draft up discussion points, turning rough half sentences into full coherent thoughts, etc. you need to give it the crucial strategy and specifics if you want anything close to a coherent answer back. If you copy pasted the key chunks about game elements, score, periods of time and etc it could give you a rough strategy but based on what? It’s making educated guesses based on what it was trained on and more generally what most of the world is interested in. FRC is such a small community of interest that FRC game manuals arent an intentional part of the training process. Custom GPTs might be your best bet, but those are still limited to ChatGPT Plus users and they still need lots of fine tuning in the setup mode to get what you want.

It takes more time to fine tune the system and you have to know the game well enough to train it what’s good and what’s bad. At that point you know the strategy and game possibilities. If you know all of that why do you need the AI at that point?

“Low tier team: estimate 2 scored in AUTO…”

Yeah, no.

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