CIM-U-LATORS

FIRST General Forum
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Hi ChiefDelphi,

Who has bought/used a CIM-U-LATOR? How is it holding up?

Team 2502 is in need of one and if any of our brother and sisters have an extra CIM-U-LATOR, we would be willing to pay some premium to get that. The back-order for Banebots seems impossible to get around otherwise… and they won’t even deliver until build season is over.

If you have an extra as a back up, it wouldn’t hurt to sell us one and buy another to have it come later for back up, right? ::rtm::

Love,
On behalf of Team 2502

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We might have ordered 4 when we’re using two - I’ll find out.

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I really wish the globes were in this year’s KOP. With the lack of availability of cimulators and no information or drawings of the transmissions until week 2, it left a sour taste in my mouth.

Also, the Globe motor for me offered a lot more than the 395’s do. At least the globes had an integrated gearbox and were great for low RPM low power applications.

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team 2439 really needs some as well if anyone has any extras for the 775. banebots! thanks for the motors in the KOP but i wish you would have gave us the gearboxes with those motors because we cant do anything without them:(

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We are desperate need of a set as well. Any body out there that help us.

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Has anybody gotten one or are they just vaporware like the p60’s?

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To the best of my knowledge, not a single CIM-U-LATOR or P60 has arrived at a team’s doorstep this year.

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From what I’ve been hearing and the little information I’ve gotten from Banebots, it seems that the Earliest orders of both the P60’s and CIMulators should be shipping late this week and early next week.

Whether or not they actually ship is a different matter.

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We ordered several weeks ago and have spoken to banebots a couple of different times. I believe the last we heard they had “assured” us that they would ship by monday.

This is an extremely frustrating situation to say the least. Had we known it would take ~4 weeks for our gearboxes to arrive, we would have just designed our own. We may still even do that just to get the thing done.

-Brando

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are the P60’s for the rs550’s also delayed?

or has anyone ordered through an alternate supplier?

http://www.robotmarketplace.com/products/banebots_gearboxes.html

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If anyone needs a P60 256:1 to use as a speed reducer in a very low torque application via a BB550, PM me. I’ll double check that our extra is actually a P60 (they’re from 2008, and were gently used then) and maybe we can swap for something.

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We got a tracking number for our P60s saying they shipped yesterday. We ordered them during week 1. Thankfully, we only needed them for one subsystem, and designed out all the other P60s and CIM-U-LATORs we were thinking of using. So, we at least have one on the way, but I’ll believe that when I actually have it in my hand…

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All of this anecdotal data is disheartening to hear. I guess I better call Banebots and see if they are even going to get to the order we put in on January 24th. We were going to use the CIM-U-LATORS and some RS775’s for the second motor in our supershifter (1 CIM, 1 RS775) because we are using 1 CIM on our elevator. (Update: I was told they should ship worse case by Monday for our order date)

I wonder which will be easier, getting these before ship date or trying to lobby the GDC to allow a 5th CIM motor like they did last year?

I will have to get with the other mentor on the team and see if we can’t build our own CIMULATOR. (Though I have no idea where it could fit in our current full schedule. Ordering is much better than building in a 6 week build season) Has any team already designed one and if so do you feel like going opensource with your design?

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I’m going to do something stupid and try to design a gearbox to replace the CIMULATOR teams can make at their shops using Toughbox parts. I’ll see how it goes.

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I fully support this effort. SolidWorks files would be great.

I am miffed at FIRST for allowing Banebots to put us in this situation. Banebots provided four “Banebot” motors, but no gearboxes in the KOP. Most teams don’t have the design or manufacturing ability to effectively use these motors without Banebot provided gearboxes. The only thing a team can do is to order from Banebots.

Banebots is failing to meet the definition of VENDOR with regard to having product available. This happened last year as well, but not to the extent as it is this year.

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We received our p60’s last week although ours were for the 550’s. It’s disheartening to hear how far behind banebots is on teams orders.

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You would be my hero!

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I am with you on the 5th Sim post it!

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If you don’t mind, can you post up your order date so that other teams (including mine) can get a feel for where Banebots is at with orders?

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WOW! I didn’t realize how behind these things actually were:ahh: I hope we can get something before build is over because I’m reeealy against using those window motors for what we need them for :frowning: hope the 5th CIM happens :smiley: