Dead Mans Switch

Does anyone know where to get a Dead Mans Switch like those found on lawn mowers, we want to incorporate it into a project so if someone panics or becomes suprised it will stop (we are trying to build a person carrying robot)

Is your robot going to carry a person in a seat? If so, a seat switch could be useful to determine occupancy.

Alternatively, use any sort of handle you want (such as is found on many lawnmowers) and simply use a touch sensor with it.

If it were up to me, I’d route the main power through a large E-stop switch, and the drive power through the dead-man. Wiring the dead-man switch so that you can only drive when contact is made (and releasing the switch breaks the contact) is about as “fool-proof” as you can get, though it might be a bit more difficult to do.

A deadman switch is not a special kind of switch, it is a normal electrical switch that interrupts power when it is not held in position. In the case of a lawnmower, it interrupts the ignition, which stops the engine.

I was going to just grab one off an old lawnmower, or somthing, but I was wondering if you had any suggestions to purchase something like this there doesn’t seem to be anything like this on MCmaster

Aren’t you basically just looking for a momentary switch that that’s default is off? No one pushing = off, someone pushing = on, let go = off, etc. Or do you need it not to restart if you push again after letting go?

Do you want it to put the robot in disabled mode or actually cut the power? If you just want it in disabled mode you could do that with some simple software and a limit switch mounted to the joystick. When the limit switch is closed it can be enabled, when it’s open (the hands let go of the joystick) then it cannot be enabled.

I was looking for a switch that needs to be held against a bar, when its released, the software will immediately stop all the motors, I am using a limit switch, but was hoping for something with more red plastic

The limit switches commonly used on FIRST robots are a viable option. If you want it bigger and redder make what ever operates it big and red. Or you could connect it to one of these.

http://ak1.ostkcdn.com/images/products/L14024544.jpg

We make use of some parts we got through First Choice on our electric car. It uses a bicycle brake lever and cable that is attached to one of the large rotary limit switches we got last year. The cable lets us remote mount the switch anywhere we want and keeps the electronics protected from contact or in the case of our last race, water. Bike brake handles come in red too…

Mark,
I’m not familiar with standard off-the-shelf deadman switches configured as a grip bar. Typical industrial applications would use mushroom cap momentary limit switches. A typical one is McMaster Carr number 7403K41. It would meet your “big red plastic switch” specification. They come in normally open or normally closed configurations. This model can be used in a control circuit and switch about 2.5 amps.

David

my main concern is that it gets away from someone so I wanted to implement something that required no thinking to engage, I thought that a big red button may not get pressed by the time something bad happens.

Is the person riding the robot, or is the person walking along / behind the robot?

This is an important question for the design of your switch.

If the person is riding the robot, then a lawn mower style deadman switch is probably not appropriate. When people get scared, their natural reaction is to grip tighter, not let go. Furthermore, if the robot is truly getting out of control, then you really don’t want them to let go since the robot will most likely throw them causing injury.

If the person is walking along or behind the robot, then a lawn mower style dead-man switch is appropriate.

Mark,
That’s not an “Emergency Power Off” button, although it looks like one. It’s a spring loaded momentary contact switch. It can be wired so that you have to press and hold the button down just like your grip bar example at the top of the thread.

Lawn mower dead man switches typically ground the coil. Often, they are a piece of metal, not a switch in a conventional sense.

You can use the leaf limit switches that were on first choice this year. Or a spring return push button switch. You can also get them at Radio Shack. They will not carry motor current though. You can use them with a relay is rated for the current (Best) or drops the signal to the motor controllers.

You might want to look at something like a “Enabling Switch”

http://ab.rockwellautomation.com/Push-Buttons/Grip-Enabling-Switches#/

These are commonly used in Industrial Robot Cells. They are a 3 position switch: Open = Disable, Middle Position = Enable, Closed (all the way) = Disable. If you close the switch all the way you have to go back to open before it will enable again.

We have used this as a wired (2009 Driver Station) and wireless e-stop for our robot. The problem with the wireless version that we made is that we have to simulate the “Enter Key” for disable and “F1” for enable. It just isn’t that reliable because we have to repeatedly send the “Enter” key and it will freeze up some computers.

This issues we had are from our implementation of the switch. If this is going to be directly on the robot, I would recommend that you electrically control the motors/disable function and NOT rely on software for a safety issue.

Hope this helps,
-Clinton-

that is just what i was looking for thanks!

Mark,
Our lighting controls in the studio use one of these turn to reset switches.


They will not handle full current for drive systems but they can be incorporated into the control system. Smacking the actuator sets the stop and one must pull and turn to reset the switch. I used the high vibration model as I remember.
The switch was part of the self climbing batten system for lighting and sets we have in the studio. It was designed by DeSisti lighting in Italy.

How about a sliding potentiometer that spring returns to 0. User must hold slider in center region if they panic and either release or push to far it cuts power.

https://www.automationdirect.com/adc/Shopping/Catalog/Pushbuttons_-z-Switches-z-Indicators/22mm_Plastic/Emergency_Stop_Pushbuttons_Illuminated-a-_Non-Illuminated/GCX3131