Do any teams planning on using the new Krakens or Neo Vortex's for swerve drive in 2024?

  • No (we do not use swerve)
  • No (we plan on sticking with Falcons or regular Neos)
  • Yes (we plan on using Krakens for swerve in 2024)
  • Yes (we plan on using the new Neos for swerve in 2024)
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Just curious to see how far teams will go with the new motors for this upcoming season.

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:money_with_wings:

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We’ll have to wait and see. Having money in hand for the expense at the same time supply chain is available is always fun game.

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Our team still has to finalize the discussion, but I think we’re using krakens for drive, sticking with Neo 1.1s for steer. We haven’t ordered anything yet, but we might also use krakens for steer to avoid extra complexity.

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We are just starting our swerve program…and it is just too early to tell. We are currently set up for NEOs…

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People have plans already? All I know is we have a box of 8 NEO 1.1s ready to go so we’ll be using at least that (assuming the game even works out for swerve).

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Our Team hasn’t had a meeting since the announcement. But IT will be discussed I can assure you that. Last year was our first year implementing swerve and we’ve been pretty much been using NEOs / Sparks Exclusively, but it’s just been nice sticking to one ecosystem, However nothing is out of the question.

When the NEO were first announced we jumped right in and bought bought them up, haven’t looked back since. So we are not above jumping head first if we think it’s going to be necessary.

While we plan on getting some of each of these exciting new motors, it’s always risky to rely on a brand new, untested product for your most important moving part. So we will see if they make it into the swerve or not.

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Maybe? We’re going to get some of each of them to evaluate, but I really couldn’t tell you what we’re going to do. Having gone with the MAXSwerve modules last year, the new Vortex is more of a drop-in replacement, but the efficiency numbers of the Krakens are quite attractive…

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What a crazy world we live in now that only 1% of respondents on a Chief Delphi poll are not using swerve.

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Very likely. We’ve ordered eight of them, but are likely to use only four as the drive motors on our swerve modules and use four Falcons (that we already have) as the steering motors. The extra four Krakens are for backup (they’re new, after all) and possibly for other mechanisms as needed. They’d be fantastic for a flywheel shooter, for instance, given the high peak power and much higher stall torque, but that sort of thing only applies if we end up needing a mechanism that might benefit from those strengths. We have a lot of Falcons on hand and will keep using them as long as they work and are supported.

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We preordered 5 of them for our “off-bot” drivetrain, if all goes well we’ll make the “off-bot” our main bot and call it a day

We ordered 10, my plan is for us to use them for the drive motors of our swerve, keep 1 spare per bot (beta and Charlie) amd sue the spare falocons to go full BLDC on everything else like our offseasion bot. But im just software lead so we will see.

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Every 2024 reveal video be like.

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For an exercise of curiosity…I wonder how Vortex would work on a tank. I mean, we went from CIMs to NEOs on ours last year. It made a HUGE difference. I would be curious if there would be a difference between the two.

While id call it CD Bias, its getting way harder to find a non-swerve robot at events anymore. I think less than 30-50% of robots at the 2 district events i went to this year had non-swerves, and PNW DCMP had 8 non-swerve robots (that i could identify via photos, theres 2 im not totally sure on)

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I wonder how many of these teams will stick with swerve if we see a game like 2016 again.

Or maybe all the vendors will have their Pneumatic Wheel Upgrade Kits ready to go and we’ll still see a lot of swerve.

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You can get some REALLY small gearboxes with the 7t pinion on the vortex. (Connor from 3739’s design)

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I will say that in FMA there are usually more tank than swerve but that ratio is tipping more towards swerve in the last few years