Do you think FIRST would change the game at this point in the season if someone posted a guess for the game that was “dead on accurate”?
I mean, the guesses are just that… guesses. But do you think they would keep it the way it is, or try and change it for the simple reason of being a total surprise?
Also, what would you do if you were FIRST and that happened??
Of course not!
One reason being… until the curtain goes up, no one KNOWS the guess is accurate. I mean… it’s not like teams are out there designing robots to play your “drum game”. Are there? So no one has a “head-start”, and there is no problem.
Another reason being… Do you have any idea how much time/effort goes into developing a FIRST game? I’m pretty sure they don’t just have “extra games” lying around for such an emergency. Evem if hypothetically they could create a new game in a much shortened period of time, not only would they have to rewrite the new manual, but they’d have to rebuild/reorder the new playing fields (6+ of them), not to mention the large amounts of $$$ that would be “wasted” on the pre-developed, now obsolete game.
No way… no how.
John
Considering the planning and effort that goes into each game, I highly doubt it.
At the very most, you’d get bragging rights (I guessed the game before the Kickoff!), but I don’t see much other reciprocation happening.
We already did tha…
Oh, wait, never mind. Forget I said anything. For any further information, go ask Lil’ Lavery.
-dave
29 days to go!!!
In last year’s make-the-new-game-thread, I seem to remember someone’s idea - Wacky Warehouse or something to that extent - being reeeaaaallly similar to Stack Attack…
That’s because Dave wanted ideas. I think we should do a CD thread again like last year, I don’t like this whole ‘submit ideas to FIRST’ thing since we can’t build upon other’s ideas.
As for the topic question, no, I don’t think FIRST will change the game, unless it was WAY early in the season. I’m talking July/August. Creating a new game takes LOADS of effort and tons of fine tweeking.
…part of the fun of FIRST is the guessing!
It’s like the monkey on the piano, sooner or later he’ll come up with the first 4 notes of Bach’s Ol’ to Joy"
:yikes:
If I were the designer of the game, I woudn’t care if someone guessed the game ‘dead on accurate’. What’s the probability of such a feat? If anything, I’d send the person who guessed correctly an email congratulating his/her good luck. And then immediately ask them to give me 5 lottery numbers.
If I were choosing, I’d do both private submissions AND a CD thread, and then consult both. But that’s just me. 
… and perhaps that has already been done? As everyone knows, there was a procedure for the teams to submit directly to FIRST earlier this year. I would also point out that the last time there was a formal CD thread on the topic, the resulting comments ran to over 95 pages of material, which distilled down to at least three years worth of really good ideas. Who ever said that material would only be used for the 2003 game?
The next logical steps are left as an exercise for the reader…
-dave (stands back as he is nearly trampled by the stampede running off to look up an old thread for clues)
29 days to go!!!
Yes I have. I spend alot of time running around town doing deliverys at work, and gives me ample time to think.
Wetzel
I don't need a cell phone to be distracted.i know some individuals who think they’ve figured it out. they kept theyre mouths prety much shut from me, as long as they dont go spreading it around i guess things will be ok 
Hmmm… I remeber myself saying weights should be a scoring object in that one thread… but hey, what do I know? 
Manchester, NH – FIRST (For Inpiration and Recognition of Science and Technology) has had their secret game revealed for the first time in their history. A participant from Connecticut picked up on a hint in a FIRST email identifying the 2004 game object as a drum. A FIRST employee told us “Wow – we never thought this could ever happen – we are scrambling – but we have successfully changed the game at this late stage – it was almost a disaster.” Apparently they really have changed the game, as the dumpsters outside of FIRST headquarters were full of hundreds of drums. The employee would not give us any hints about the new game… but, two tractor trailers were seen being unloaded yesterday at FIRST Headquarters. Their contents? Bongos. Hundreds of boxes of bongos.
Alright! So when we’re not working on our robot… we can put on French hats, tap on those bongo drums and rehearse poetry!
Are you sure this isn’t Lil’ Lavery posting under Aidan’s name?
I may have missed something you guys said already, but maybe they design two games, or one and a half, incase someone guesses it exactly, if something is accidently released that gives it away, or if a major problem is found in the game and they have to abandon it after the kickoff, they have another ready to go, or almost ready to go. Then, if they don’t use it, they can use it as a start on next year’s game and begin designing a backup game that can be used the following year.
I am basing this off of almost no information.
Major problems haven’t caused them to abandon or change the game in the past. They just release poorly worded updates.
Wetzel
There will be robots involved in the 2004 game.HA!! Hey, look at that, the handy-dandy feature in this new spiffy version of Vbulletin has the post you are referring to, at the bottom under all our posts…
yeah but after the first ten minutes of listening to a monkey bang on a piano, everyone would leave, so by the time he DID play Bach there would be nobody there to hear it. :eek:
this idea that someone is going to guess the game, and spoil the efforts of FIRST
is similar to engineering
anyone can come up with an idea, lets say for a flying machine that uses no power
but unless you:
then all you are doing is guessing - unless you could convice a good percentage of the 950 teams that you have some proof of what the new game is,
and they take you seriously
then why would FIRST care?
even a broken clock is correct twice a day.