Hi everyone, on Tuesday, May 15th we’re planning on doing our recap cast of the 2012 Season. We’re going to hit on some Regional Highlights, Game Highlights, Different CMP Divisions, etc, etc. If anyone has anything specific they’d like us to talk about, please post up in this thread. We’re working on getting a few guests on who had interesting experiences this past season so stay tuned for more info.
As always, the cast will be live on our TS Page at 9pm EST: http://www.talkshoe.com/tc/98466
I would like it noted, discussion regarding the control system issues will be minimal until more information is released or we know more.
Good decision, we could spend hours throwing flames at each other over this issue (though through GP, we shouldn’t, but sometimes emotions get the best of us).
I think one of the biggest things I’d like to see discusses are the many strategies that won each division. Which strategies were the best and which ones stood out.
My team’s interested in hearing a discussion on the benefits and the negative effects we all saw from co-op points. (for example, our scouting team saw a undefeated team’s ranking at the end of Friday in the 20’s)
Sorry for the late reminder everyone, but the cast is tonight at 9pm EST on our TS page.
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<schreiaj> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1r_G9I3K7bRt1uxf-tIGmaZHjfoyB8Z_pBknB-844Av0/edit?pli=1 < what we will be discussing
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<aspiece> We are installing a second one now
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<aspiece> 2
<schreiaj> Andrew, why?
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<aspiece> Can't see the balls under the bridge
<aspiece> or if we have them lined up right against the wall
<schreiaj> ah interesting
<aspiece> We lost our last finals match because a triple balance and we didn't see balls in the way
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<chrisisme> were you 2826 by chance
<aspiece> no
<aspiece> 68
<schreiaj> aspiece is T3
<chrisisme> oh ok
<aspiece> The fans understood the game that were new and it was easy to esplain
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<aspiece> Kickoff afternoon went a lot of quicker
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<Kristian25> Bill did address the glossary issue in one of the FRC Live! presentations.
<schreiaj> Oh?
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<Kristian25> Yeah, the reasoning was the they really didn't want to constrain teams/have them lawyer the rules too much
<Kristian25> or something along those lines, but the audience did let him know that they would've preferred some sort of glossary
<Kristian25> For reference, I think it's in one of the Rebound Rumble videos (3-6) http://www.youtube.com/user/FRCTeamsGlobal, IIRC
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<aspiece> I am the only one I could get to read anything!
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<aspiece> I would beg borrow and steal!
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<aspiece> to get someone to read
<schreiaj> Threats don't work either btw...
<aspiece> Oh I have found that out. LOL
<chrisisme> On 1714 we read the manual out loud, with the whole team, on Kickoff
<chrisisme> best way to ensure everyone reads it
<schreiaj> Students realize you can't carry through on them
<aspiece> They read the manual. I should clarify.
<aspiece> We read the updates as a group. I am thinking Q and A
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<thefro526> Andrew, I know who you're talking about
<thefro526> Lololol
<aspiece> It is getting better. I got two or three using Chief. Did you see our Leg Design? LOL
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<Guest 11> Tiny Trex arms
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<wing1002> so, what did I miss?> I just got in here
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<Kristian25> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1r_G9I3K7bRt1uxf-tIGmaZHjfoyB8Z_pBknB-844Av0/edit?pli=1
<Kristian25> ^ those are the show notes
<avanboekel> they werent put under use with actual robots
<aspiece> We were actually hoping to do it but never put in that position
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<Guest 11> watch 1983's bridge defense in Spokane Regional
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<aspiece> Fender defense was deadly on fender shooters. We got to do it once and we shut down both 1322 and 548
<wing1002> I don't think there was a difference in difficulty on either shots. it depended on how it was executed by the team
<wing1002> 2056 was pretty invulnerable to fender D
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<apalrd> I kinda like the fender...
<wing1002> 842
<Kristian25> 1065
<schreiaj> Moose turned into a key shooter at Boca elims
<wing1002> There was no backboard though, that was what made it hard
<wing1002> you had to land your shots in for a swoosh
<aspiece> Once our shooter was working correctly, the key was easy to line up without code
<wing1002> audio just died on me....
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<wing1002> That shot between the lane and the fender is hard because of no backboard
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<schreiaj> yup
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<wing1002> I do think the bots that could shoot from both were the best
<wing1002> Co-op bridge really screwed with the rankings
<aspiece> I liked the second level of strategy
<aspiece> IT created some interesting competitiveness strategy between the opposing teams
<aspiece> I will admit to some politicing
<wing1002> argh, audio died on me again
<avanboekel> hit the trouble hearing thing in the bottom right
<wing1002> cool
<jbarry987> Getting coop last match of qualifications instead of going for likely win cost us a 49-0 season
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<wing1002> dang
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<matt_FRCDesigns> Hello Everyone!
<avanboekel> hi!
<wing1002> I mean, there's those teams like 1114 and 1717 that sit there and help any possible team that needs help at competition
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<aspiece> inconsistent on ball jam rules
<wing1002> I saw that it was inconsistent on the Hybrid rulings for buzzer beaters
<Kristian25> I think that as the season went on, they got better at dealing with ball jams, at least in hybrid
<aspiece> One match of our they simple gave us the points and didn't restart a match.
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<aspiece> They were consistent at CMP
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<wing1002> I found that in Week 7 events, they were counting buzzer beaters in Hybrid, but in Newton, they weren't
<Kristian25> The ruling at CMP on that was that the field supposedly had a slight delay built in to account for the extra hybrid points after the buzzer
<Kristian25> so they weren't going to manually adjust it
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<thefro526> IIRC, it was enough to count a ball in the hoop at the end of hybrid, but not a ball in the air
<Kristian25> and that was consistent across the event. I know at some other events earlier in the season, the field crews were compensating for the extra 3 pts
<jbarry987> Refs job is to supervise proper placement of elements on fields
<Kristian25> Much better than the 06 real time scoring, and at least the goals were such that the pokey pokey stick guy couldn't knock the balls out of the goal
<aspiece> The real time scoring was key for many of our wins
<Kristian25> They could, but it was sooo much better than 2006's
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<aspiece> That is why you have a coach
<Kristian25> A++ on the scoring
<aspiece> We may have made some teams a little mad because we waited to shoot rather than go to the bridge at :45
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<aspiece> We still would get the bridge but win in points
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<aspiece> It was great to pick the 88th seed to our alliance for Newton and make the finals with them
<schreiaj> Couldn't pick the 9th seed
<matt_FRCDesigns> 1-2004 2-2006 3-2012 4-2008
<aspiece> Political answer: My scouters make these decisions
<jbarry987> I agree with Sean
<programLuke2169> 8 beat 1 on galileo
<schreiaj> http://d.pr/i/1xO4 The impact hybrid had
<jbarry987> Not unexpected for us
<jbarry987> Suuup Sean!
<matt_FRCDesigns> IRI Invitation List it out!!! http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=106486
<avanboekel> wow. 1625 didnt make it
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<schreiaj> The Aluminum Falcons did
<chrisisme> Its not IRI without 1625
<aspiece> We are gonna miss 1625
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<aspiece> Can you say freaking out adults in stands
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<schreiaj> can you say freaking out me trying to find some of my students?
<aspiece> Oh boy
<aspiece> It was crazy
<schreiaj> (I was separate from the team but wanted to make sure that they were all somewhere inside)
<aspiece> Teams at the top couldn't move floors
<aspiece> were forced to stay in the stands
<schreiaj> They evacuated the volunteer lounge too
<jbarry987> Storm perfect metaphore for field events
<aspiece> I agree
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<chrisisme> Don't want to interrupt the talk
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<chrisisme> but the tunnels were a safe, reinforced, windowless place that could fit a few thousand people
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<aspiece> Michigan is $4000
<aspiece> I have one comment: 217? Really?
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<avanboekel> @aspiece there are good teams outside of districts that didn't make it as well. look at 71...
<chrisisme> 2168, 829, 177
<aspiece> Oh I am aware. We speaking about districts so thats why I said them
<aspiece> 1625
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<Kristian25> Our regionals last year were bag and tag, so it wasn't that new to us
<schreiaj> ah ok
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<jbarry987> Dang...I agree with Sean again! Let's stop fooling around and just let the teams work as much or as little as they want.
<avanboekel> eliminates practice bots
<jbarry987> Works for FTC and FLL
<aspiece> We are willing to drive ours
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<schreiaj> If I can fit an FRC robot in my mini...
<aspiece> Kids want to use it and show it off
<aspiece> It works awesome in OCCRA
<aspiece> It is an awesome list
<jbarry987> Good luck all IRI teams...we'll miss you guys.
<aspiece> GO truck!
<wing1002> A lot of teams we haven't heard of really shone this year
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<wing1002> Dissapointed that 2415 didn't apply for IRI
<wing1002> cool
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<wing1002> The whole "Eh Team" got in
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<wing1002> This was one of the best games I've seen in recent memory
<jbarry987> Great job with webcasts guys!
<schreiaj> It's our pleasure
<aspiece> Great Job guys and see you all soon!
<wing1002> MAR was a big success
<avanboekel> thanks for everything this year!
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<schreiaj> [email protected]
<wing1002> I LOST THE GAME
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