[strike]I am still waiting on confirmation that I can get two teams off the wait list if I put up all 65 points.
Still not a bid.[/strike]
Thank you for the confirmation. I am not going to bid away 217, therefore I am out of the bidding (the sum of my other two teams would tie the current high bid).
(I have to say I thought that’d happen… Are you sure? If so, count up the points, and post that)
I’ll laugh if it’s revealed that 469 SawZalled off the top of their robot and just decided to be a regular midfielder after IRI.
I’m sure. 53 points.
I’ll trade my first and last pick (1243 and 1189) for 469. That’s 31 points.
I’m not sure if I like the system. It just rewards who got higher in the draft, or worse who didn’t show up. Realistically only a first round pick could possibly outscore 469, and if you have weak enough back picks there’s a solid chance 469 could outscore all 3, or at least get close enough to not count. Plus there’s no penalty for dropping a good team, since those points effectively “die”.
Per Basel and my conversation, I’m not a fan either. However, I’m not the one running the draft, and there were other solutions talked about for this, but ultimately, it did come down to Basel’s choice for which one to implement.
However I do agree, it only favors those who got a high pick in the draft. Players who got to pick earlier would happily trade away their 2nd and 3rd picks, that they acquired from the “picked over” list of teams, while players who picked lower have to hold on to the teams they got to even compete with the higher first picks.
Zach, note that the current highest bid is 53.
I didn’t particularly like the system, but on short notice, I couldn’t think of a more fair one to implement (and at this point I’m not willing to switch).
Thought for the sake of discussion, it is surely a way for a player to make up for previous bad picks or missing the draft. However, there could be a legitimate debate on whether or not that’s even a bad thing. It’s not that bad an idea to allow those who made bad choices in the past a “second chance.”
As for rewarding those who got higher in the draft:
Certainly it isn’t a perfect system, but to be fair I did consider other solutions, and felt this was the most fair time-sensible solution, and I had no time to work out the kinks.
So does the winner of the 469 “Auction” put their teams back into open play to trade for?
No, they’re out of the draft.
Why? Undoubtedly at least a first round pick will be given up to gain 469. Allowing someone to pick up any of the first-round picks for free (well, third round pick) would heavily unbalance the draft, comparable to allowing 469 to be chosen as such. I don’t feel like that’d be fair, so I’m allowing players to (in my opinion) overpay (or simply outbid each other) for 469.
You could do additional auctions for the remaining teams, maybe.
So it is. My b.
Conidered it, but:
How about you just add 469 to the person with the lowest OPR and drop that persons 3rd pick for 469. One person already calculated it in this thread.
Nevermind, just looked and ZachO, who is leading the Auction with the highest bid, would also fit the bill that I just said. Let the auction continue lol =]
If enough people sent in lists it’s trivial to rerun the draft and just assume everyone would put 469 #1
Actually Luke is leading it, and he should have the lowest, having gotten random teams. Though the calculated scores were based off an unnamed equation (notably unrelated to OPR) , with data generated from an unofficial source.
However, the point of FF is that everyone thinks they can choose the best teams, using their own method. That suggestion would basically say “Everyone should pick using OPR, because the highest OPR will give the best score,” which just isn’t a good idea. Sure, this is idealistic theory, but I try to stick to the standards.
@Chris Several people didn’t, and a few others submitted half-lists, intending to make the 3rd or even second picks live. Either way, a re draft… Okay, admittedly a pretty good idea but there just isn’t enough time to get everyone together to re-run the draft, especially on a weekday, a couple days out of the competition.
rtfgnow…217…894… .548
ClintonBolinger…2337…703… 2145
dodar…33…397… .322
Karibou…2137…3096… .326
Vikesrock…1718…247… .862
BaselA…910…503… 1322
ProgramLuke…469
KokoEd…27…494… 2604
ZachO…1243…1684… 1189
kenavt…2619…66… 3401
Chrisisme…51…70… 3415
302 314 468 1506 1946
Out:
2612 903 2832
Teams freeze tonight.
Alright, so I have two rankings sheets for you. The first is merely added-together OPR of the three teams you’ve picked, and the second is the OPR minus the DPR of the three teams. Data grabbed off of the team’s last event thanks to FRC Tracker 2010 for iOS. It’s a great app, I really recommend it.
OPR Only:
OPR-DPR
is DPR = Defensive Power Rating? and if so, whats the point of doing OPR-DPR?
I was asleep when it passed but rosters are now frozen. Good luck!
Yes. The point is that in elims, you’d rather have a 6-1 guy than an 8-6 guy (OPR, DPR). They’re just more likely to win.