Thank you for your incredible enthusiasm and Gracious Professionalism throughout the year and at the Championship.
We apologize for the technical problems that affected the final matches at our Championship. We will examine all of the facts, report our findings and ultimately solve any and all identified issues.
Sincerely,
Jon Dudas
President, FIRST
Can anyone confirm? EDIT: It’s confirmed. 2nd post.
“We will examine all of the facts, report our findings and ultimately solve any and all identified issues.” so what are they going to do make all the teams come back just to play Einstein and see who should of really won?
I wouldn’t call it a “tainted” win. Everyone on that field had the same issue to one degree or another.
I look at it as, “Who has the best alliance”, with an unannounced–and unplanned-for–factor contributing to that called, “Who maintains connection the best”.
I also see it as, thanks to all the Einstein teams for finally calling FIRST’s full, undivided attention to an issue that has been plaguing them for a while.
And I think the SPAM Raider Squad is one of the best sets of teams to come together and play the game. Comm issues or no comm issues.
With the way things are going, I have a bad feeling about any potential Einstein replay matches on IRI. There is definitely going to be a bad vibe going about if 180, 16, and 25 don’t win that time, and it would just be awkward. I feel like FIRST is handling it correct for now, and needs to investigate this deeply, and as for the champions, I like the idea of keeping the current Champions, but having all other Einstein teams be given a bid to the 2013 Championship.
I know it’s impossible to predict who will be going championships next season, but if giving teams an auto bid next season is meant to compensate, I honestly don’t believe that is enough, especially for teams such as 118, 548, 16, 25, 180, 1114, 2056, 233, 987, who either already qualify or have about as much chance of missing championship as 217 did this year.
I couldn’t have said it any better. The most disappointing thing about these random field issues is that FIRST has been seeing them and denying them all season long.
At one regional, they made a point to blame the multiple teams with random disconnects in the eliminations when the crowd began to react, even though the evidence was by no means conclusive.
It’s absolutely horrible that the issues happened on Einstein field, in a way that was both obvious and large scale. I am glad FIRST is finally recognizing there is a problem, but they had weeks to years of observations that they were denying before this. It’s a shame. At least the issues are finally getting the attention they need.
I agree. If I were the IRI committee, I wouldn’t want to put the 2012 World Championships in an awkward position. All four alliances had the potential to win, and even with no field issues, some luck going one way or another would have produced a different world champion.
There were several team throughout the season with comm issues. I really hope FIRST finds a more robust com system. This should not have happened, especially on Einstein.
-Shout out to team 1619 who built and insane robot this year, and it connected in only 3 matches.
I don’t think your win was tainted at all, though other alliances had possibly better single robots, you guys were the most extraordinary alliance with the best strategy and match play. The defensive play and ball starvation allowing great tele-op scores as well as the insane speed and reliability of your auton and balancing earned you the win.
I haven’t heard a single person call it a tainted win. Granted, everyone would have rather had all robots working in all matchups, but they weren’t. We’ll see later at IRI, but I bet this alliance would win no matter what.
I know others will disagree with me (and this is no way how the team that I am affiliated with feels, this is a purely personal opinion), but I do believe it was a tainted win. I mean absolutely no disrespect to the winning alliance; they were a fantastic set of robots. However, looking at the definition of tainted: Affect with a bad or undesirable quality. The matches were quite obviously affected with an undesirable quality, comm issues.
Again, I mean no disrespect and this is only a personal opinion, not that of the team number next to my name.