FIRSTwiki: The first battle

This type of naivete can be your undoing. See here and here. You’d be suprised how ignorant the court can be in matters of technology. Also, as echoed by others … posting information about other people shouldn’t be taken so lightly.

I just got so much perspective out of that.

I think this all has to do with respect for somebody. If somebody is trying to correct a wrong, it’s not right to humiliate that person. I don’t care who they are. It could have been just some kid playing around or may not be mature. As a site administrator, it’s your job to solve problems in the most quiet and professional manner you can.

well i will put my input into this…i post on a few different messageboards (phishhook.com, sharinthegroove.org, etc) and over the past months we have had alot of problems with people like this posting tons of obseen material and causeing a ruckus. what we found is yes they try to take down the site for like a week and then give up…i would say just don’t respond to them and just fix the things they do eventully they will go away. most people on this site are more mature then these people, and lets not let them get in the way of further devlopment of this project.

Oh, I agree with that sentiment. However, before a user is blocked he is given repeated notices of what he is doing, asked nicely to stop, we try to get him to realize what he’s doing is wrong … and only then do we block him. All I was getting at was at this point he has clearly made it public, and I think we have every right to put his IP address on the wiki so that others can look out for him when the ban is expired to make sure he doesn’t do any more vandalizations.

Though a certain over-excited administrator has indeed prompted a lot of constructive conversation on the whole issue … which will cause me (and the other sysops more than likely) to review the whole process of what happened … and a lot of which will soon find its way to the administrator’s guide (which I’ll try to bring up to par on the morrow). I’ll post a link where further review of our policies can more appropriately take place.

For now, please keep the good advice coming …

A quick search on this IP reveals:

12.222.122.13
12-222-122-13.client.insightBB.com
Win XP
Netscape 5.0
1400x1050
16 M colors

Darn Netscape Users… :rolleyes:

Massachusettes has nothing to do with this particular attack… This person may have been from there at one time, but not at the time of that posting on the wiki going by the info that you provided.

Astronouth7303, if you want to know the info I found - PM me.

That is the dumbest thing I’ve heard in a while, to think that someone has the time and the stupidity to try and destroy a resource designed to help people.

Good luck in fending them off, I’ll try to be around soon to help out.

I know that maybe it probably wasn’t the best idea ever to make this public, but there are a few things to be said for it:
A. If this person comes along and destroys someone’s work (I know you can change it back, but that’s beside the point…), they won’t feel like it’s an attack against them, it’s just some trouble maker
B. Also, if anyone sees this guy making trouble again, they can know that it’s not his first time and report it to the sysops/other admins.

Rousing up minions? Starting a rebellion? Sounds like an immature 12-year-old wannabe cracker to me.

Some people, geez. Well, we should be able to hold against this.

I’ve come up with a first draft of our policy. The general Guide for administrators is here, and the specific policy dealing with vandalism is here. It is being debated, and everyone’s input is certainly welcome.

For some background: There were 8 seperate acts within a time frame of 40 minutes. For a list of pages, see User contriutions.

It’s been said many times before in this thread, but vandals like this thrive on attention. It’s the only reason they do this sort of thing. By posting all this, their information, all the posts, etc, you’re doing exactly what they want you to do. The more attention brought to them, the brighter the spotlight on them, the more they will vandalize- because they know people are watching. Really, the best thing you can do about this sort of thing is very quietly and subtley undo whatever damage they do. When they see their efforts yield no results, they will stop.

I’ve dealt with my share of trolls and vandals on my own forum, and by arguing and making a large public scene, you are only feeding their original purpose in destroying such things- attention. I know it’s difficult to ignore, and very difficult not to act, but for these sorts of things, it’s best to act quietly and quickly, and hope no one notices. The more people know about it, the more it will happen. The more you post and complain about it, the more it will happen.

I agree. This doesn’t need to be discussed here.

Brandon has spoken. :slight_smile:

i’m sry but that was such a funny conversation.
is he really serious? (i have an army to round, a rebellion to start, and a website to destroy… good day… good night… good life…)lol weirdo!

Don’t know yet, I just realized we haven’t unblocked him yet! (72 hours from the 13th!)