Can confirm, just purchased Onyx one from hawk ridge, our contact tried a few times to get us an educational or non-profit discount with no success and at the same time helped speed up the process to get the order in before the 1st to avoid the price hike.
So my bid might have been too high?
At some point CD may need to start charging non-vendor resellers a fee to list their warez
Kind of scummy move. Also the fact that the person buying it from you will likely lose all markforged support if a problem with the machine occurs you should be selling it for less than 3500.
Some people see a future price hike like this as a chance to make a profit from the community⌠others would see it as a chance to inform the community so they could take advantage of lower price while it lasted. Iâm always saddened when coming across the former instead of the latter.
Iâd be willing to pay $4k Canadian.
Anyone who has contacted Markforged recently to inquire about machines should already know about the price hike as the reps were pretty open about it.
The majority of the FRC people I interact with knew about this.
Markforged printers are not good value for their cost. Lower priced printers with a couple of upgrades can do 99% of what their non-filament printers can. A ruby nozzle and Matterhackers NylonX on an more open source printer is a good alternative, and Eiger is sorely lacking features and options.
But muh Apple printer
I didnât. And I didnât see any posts on CD referencing the price hike (I searched just now and couldnât find anything obvious). It may have become a discussion topic in your area, but that doesnât mean it was common knowledge across the FIRST community.
Itâs powered by a beaglebone black, a generic usb hub, and a generic usb wifi card inside. The fact that they charge 70k for an X7 is highway robbery, let alone 4k+ for the basic Onyx One
i feel personally attacked
Right, but I can buy a Onyx One. Connect 2 wires, follow very basic instructions to install filament, and start printing perfect prints, with very high reliability. And Iâve yet to encounter a situation where i felt like Eiger was missing features the common person would need.
âLower priced printers with a couple of upgradesâ and âopen source printerâ doesnât sounds like plug and play with high reliability and perfect prints to me
Iâm willing to pay the premium for that ease of use and reliability. If you arenât, then good for you.
The problem is, I think, that not everybody who was considering a purchase contacted Markforged recently. We talked to them at the beginning of the summer in 2019 and didnât hear anything about this AFAIK, and we decided to push the purchase to next year (if at all) for financial reasons. We may have made room for it this year if we had known about the price increase.
Now, with the increased price, we most likely wonât buy one at all and go with an open source alternative like the Pulse XE, which is now less than 1/3 the price.
How about ANY support options other than turbo or not turbo? How about the ability to select and move multiple parts in a build? I could go on, but I use these every day and the frustrations are constant. Theyâre fine to get started, but once you have a handle on additive manufacturing, the options are extremely limiting. You can try modeling your own supports, but then eiger wont print them as theyâre âtoo thinâ even though theyâre identical to the procedurally generated supports.
Something like an Original Prusa with a different nozzle and filament is perfectly reliable. Nozzles are wear items that all users should know how to change, as is filament.
No supports is also an option, and as someone whoâs been using 3d printers on a regular basis for almost a decade now, Iâve personally never cared about any support options other then âuse supports or no supportsâ.
(Yes i know Iâm very much not an âadvanced userâ but, as Iâve previously stated, âFeatures that a common user would wantâ)
âŚYou can do that.
That isnât the market for MarkForged. MarkForged is (as someone alluded to above) the Apple of 3D printing. You plug it in and it âjust worksâ. There are a ton of people who are very happy with that option. Iâm fairly technical, but when I have the choice between something that âjust worksâ or something that Iâm going to have to fiddle with, Iâll pay the extra. I want to spend my problem solving time on something else.
Again - different markets. Different levels of support.
Guys & gals. Ease off. The market will support what the market will support. The OP is making a calculated move to make some $$. Let em. His money is at RISK. He is no different than AndyMark, Vex, Rev Robotics, Copperforge, etc. It is capitalism, and there is nothing wrong with that. He is not taking advantage of anyone. NOBODY has to buy his printer at his price. Reminds me of the alliexpress bearing thread a while back. There is nothing wrong with anyone trying to make a profit off of robotics. It can lead to added COTS if the model is successful and perhaps lower prices through competition.
Howdy folks, your conversation has nothing to do with the OPs attempt to sell their printer. If you want to continue your conversation. Start a new thread.
I have thousands of hours on our MarkForged printers but only 2 âfailedâ prints in the last year, both due to me ignoring the filament messages and trying to squeeze out every gram of onyx. Besides for robots, 99% of the parts we print go directly into manufacturing facilities and work well. Hobbyist printers are extremely cool but cool doesnât get parts manufactured. If the conversation is on learning, then sureâŚtry the open market but there is tons of knowledge to be had with any MF printer. Learn how to design for additive and your âstockâ setting pallet will suit you well.
-Ronnie