[FRC Blog] 2025 KitBot Shopping List

Posted on the FRC Blog, 12/9/24 by FIRST Robotics Competition Staff

2025 KitBot Shopping List

by FIRST Robotics Competition Staff • December 09, 2024

Kickoff is just a few weeks away and we’re counting down the days until we unveil REEFSCAPESM presented by Haas as well as this year’s KitBot. With the help of our friends at SendCutSend, we wanted to share a little teaser of some components of the KitBot.

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/RkFbFxejePA?feature=share

We previously shared some information on the KitBot but to help ensure that teams have the materials on hand to make the KitBot, we wanted to release a shopping list of some items to buy to help teams prepare before Kickoff.

The good news is that we were able to add even more items to the Black Tote this season, which means that teams receiving the Black Tote have fewer items to buy this year! Huge shoutout to these suppliers who helped us ensure most of the components needed for the KitBot were in the Black Tote:

  • 3M
  • AndyMark
  • Formlabs
  • The Thrifty Bot
  • Rev Robotics
  • SendCutSend
  • Stratasys
  • WestCoast Products

To start, we’re going to share the materials that all teams planning to build the KitBot will need to source regardless of if they opted out of some of the Kickoff Items.

Table 1: Raw Materials

Material Qty Info
1 in. x 1 in. Aluminum Square Tube 1/16 in. wall thickness. 8 ft. long. (25 mm x 25 mm, 1.5mm wall thickness, ~244 cm long) 2 Okay to use other wall thickness if preferred. Okay to use other lengths down to 32 in., need quantity 5 for lengths from 44 in. to 58 in. (112 cm to 147 cm).
All parts are designed so that Pre-Drilled Tubing such as WCP-0924, WCP-1023, am-5177, REV-21-2160 can be easily used if preferred.
4 ft. x 4 ft. Polycarbonate Sheet 0.118 in. thickness (~1200 mm x 1200 mm, 3 mm thickness) 1 It is okay to use 0.125 in. instead if preferred.

Make sure to use polycarbonate and not acrylic. Acrylic of this thickness is likely to shatter either when machined or when subjected to the shock of robot operation.

Other materials (0.125 in. aluminum, 0.25 in. plywood, etc.) may be used but have not been tested and bolt and spacer lengths may be affected if modifying material thickness.

Also available from vendors in smaller sizes such as: WCP-0294 (3 sheets needed)
2 ft. x 2 ft. Sheet of ¾ in. Plywood (600 cm x 600 cm, 19mm thickness) 1 Used for electronics board. May also need additional plywood for Bumper Backing, see below for details.

Other materials may be used but have not been tested and bolt lengths may be affected if modifying material thickness.
(Optional) – ¾ in. Schedule 40 PVC Pipe (20mm DIN PVC pipe) 2 ft. (~600mm) This material is to make spacers which can also be purchased or can be 3D Printed.

Table 2 shows the parts needed for the KitBot that must be sourced by the team. Some items can be 3D printed or created from raw material rather than sourced directly.

Table 2: Team Sourced Parts List

Part Qty Info
2 in. long ½ in. Hex Spacers (KB-25018) 4 Can be 3D Printed or made from PVC pipe.

May be substituted with 5/8 in or ¾ in. round (~15mm-20mm diameter, 50mm length) spacers that are available at many hardware stores, McMaster, MSC, etc. or hex spacers that are available at many common FIRST Robotics Competition suppliers. May be built up from smaller lengths.
2-3/8 in. long ½ in. Hex Spacers (KB-25019) 2
Cable Ties 10 50lb, 8 in. Cable Ties (~5mm width, 203mm or greater length)
These cable ties are available in the Rookie Tote50lb, 8 in. Cable Ties (~5mm width, 203mm or greater length)
These cable ties are available in the Rookie Tote
#10-32 1.5 in. long Button Head Cap Screw 8 Used to attach the electronics board. May use other bolt head styles or M5 ~40mm.
#10-32 Locknut 8 Used to attach the electronics board. M5 Locknut if using M5 bolts.

We’re also including some step-by-step instructions on how to build bumpers specifically for the KitBot this year. Teams may choose to use other materials if preferred, but Table 3 lists the items needed to build the bumpers as we describe:

Table 3: Bumper Materials

Material Qty Info
4 ft. x 8 ft. Sheet of ¾ in. Plywood (1.2 m x 2.4 m, 19mm thickness) 1 The size noted here is used for the electronics board and bumpers.

May also use two 2 ft. x 4. Ft (~60 cm x 120 cm) sheets or a 5 ft. x 5 ft. (~150 cm x 150 cm) sheet. Other materials may be used but have not been tested.
(optional) Brackets 4 Brackets are only needed if teams are making L Bumpers.
Teams can source any bracket similar to the Bumper Wood Corner Brackets (am-3233a) or can manufacture similar brackets out of aluminum angle.
Pool Noodles, 2 ½ nominal diameter (~63 mm), ~55 in. long (~140 cm) ~10 5 Pool Noodles are provided in the Rookie Tote. Rookie teams can either source 5 additional pool noodles or do swappable bumper covers.

Teams may optionally choose to use other padding if preferred as noted in the Game Manual.
(optional) ½ in. Foam Tiles (~13 mm) ~5 sq ft. (~½ sq m) Frequently sold as 2 ft. x 2 ft. tiles, 2 tiles will back one set of bumpers.
Red Fabric 1 ½ yards (~1.4 m) 18 in. x 160 in. of each color is included in the Rookie Tote and is sufficient for a set of Bumpers.

If buying in a standard width (60 in.), 1 ½ yards are needed of each color.
Blue Fabric 1 ½ yards (~1.4 m)
(Optional) White Paint 1 1 small paint container should be sufficient. Teams may use other materials to add numbers to Bumpers.

Finally, if you want to be able to build the KitBot Superstructure on Kickoff weekend and opted out of the Black tote, you should make sure you have the items listed in Table 4.

Table 4: Black Tote Parts List

Part Qty Provided part and Info Alternative Parts
Plate 1 (KB-25001) 1 Laser-Cut Aluminum Plate Can be manufactured out of Aluminum Sheet 1/8 in. thick or teams can purchase on Kickoff from any supplier who chooses to produce them or use the SendCutSend Voucher to have these produced.
Plate 2 (KB-25002) 1 Laser-Cut Aluminum Plate
Back Angle Plate (KB-25003) 4 Laser-Cut Aluminum Plate
T-Bracket (KB-25004) 4 Laser-Cut Aluminum Plate TTB-0083, am-4158, REV-21-2328, WCP-1069
Hole patterns differ from provided T-Bracket.
RSL Mount (KB-25005) 1 Laser-Cut Aluminum Plate
Hex Shaft (KB-25013) 1 Cut to length Hex Shaft (made from REV-41-3205) am-2291-3, WCP-0915, TTB-0069
Radio Mount (KB-25014) 1 3D Printed Part Can be 3D Printed
24 Tooth Pulley (KB-25015 1 3D Printed Part Can be 3D Printed or or TTB-0126, WCP-0992, am-4626
48 Tooth Pulley (KB-25016) 1 3D Printed Part Can be 3D Printed
1/8 in. long ½ in. Hex Spacer (KB-25017) 2 TTB-0017-1/8 REV-21-2004-PK10, am-3948-125, WCP-0788
4 in. Compliant Wheels 5 TTB-0057 While other wheels may be used, this wheel was specifically chosen for the way it interacts with the game piece in this design.
130 Tooth 5mm HTD Belt 1 WCP-0652 am-5215_130T, TTB-0195
CIM (8mm Key) to 1/2 in. Hex Adapter 1 WCP-0794 am-0588_long, REV-21-1879, TTB-0044
3D Printed Part ½ in. Hex Adapters 4 WCP-1121
8mm Shaft Push-on Retaining Ring 1 am-0033 TTB-0093
2 in. Premium Black Gaffer’s Tape 10’ am-2944-18 (color does not matter for use case) Any Premium 2 in. Gaffer’s Tape (~48mm width x 3m length)
CIM Key Stock 1 am-1121 WCP-0793
1/2 in. Hex Bearings 2 REV-21-1915 TTB-0001, am-2986, WCP-0783
1/2 in. Hex Shaft Collars 2 REV-21-1911 WCP-0799, am-1526_black, TTB-0013
Reclosable Fastener 4’ 3M SJ3540 / 7000051932 Any reclosable fasteners or hook and loop
CIM Motor 1 am-0255 WCP 217-2000.
See the game manual for a complete list of legal CIM part numbers.
This is in addition to those needed for the drivetrain.
Spark MAX motor controllers 1 REV-11-2158 am-4261
This is in addition to those needed for the drivetrain.
Robot Signal Light 1 855PB-B12ME522 am-3583
#10-32 1.5 in. long Button Head Cap Screw 8 Required. WCP-0257 M5 ~40mm
#10-32 Locknut 10 Required. WCP-0325 M5 Locknut
#10-32 1.75 in. long Socket Head Cap Screw 2 Required. WCP-1549 M5 ~40mm
#10-32 0.5 in. long Socket Head Cap Screw 2 Required. am-1002
#10-32 1.5 in. long Button Head Cap Screw 58 WCP-0257 M5 ~40mm

Other bolt head styles may be used or Aluminum or Steel 3/16 in. diameter, 0.126 in. - 0.25 in. grip range pop rivets (5mm diameter, 4-6mm grip range).
#10-32 Locknut 58 WCP-0325 M5 Locknut if using M5 bolts.

If rivets used, these are not needed.

Poster’s note: This took a lot of reformatting with the tables/merged cells. There are a few table layouts that the forum cannot support, so see the original post for the best formatting.

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So there is a decenly tall super structure. I also see no mention of any significant reductions for motors which leaves me a little concerned we are in for another shooting game, but thats a stretch of an "analysis ".

And the foam floor tiles make an appearance (thankfully) in the list.

I am still sticking with boat bumpers as a game piece.

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The 4in compliant wheels really make me think one of the game pieces will be very rigid (probably PVC pipes)

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There could be a gearbox in the Black Tote - I believe AndyMark has donated Sport gearboxes at least a few times.

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6 m x 6m with 19mm thickness sheet plywood???

I don’t think it gonna fit my Boeing 737 cargo hold.

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If sport gearboxes (or similar) were included in the black tote, that would be listed in table 4 then, no?

1 extra CIM+sparkMax, compliant wheels, 2:1 pulley+belt:

“Shooting game confirmed” :slight_smile:

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Akin to 2017 perhaps? One game piece can be “launched”, the second is a pick-n-place type object?

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Not the first time a materials list has struggled with anything other than freedom units.

< / s>

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Disagree. It will be boat bumpers.

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Yeah, you’re right. I misread it as being a list of only custom parts that would be in the tote.

Edit: That being said, the use of compliant wheels makes me think it could be a simple intake that can also score in a low goal like the 2020 Everybot.

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What’s stopping the compliment wheels for being used for a pick and place intake ala 18, 19, and 23?

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Nothing. But a 2:1 pulley setup sounds way more like a shooter than an arm or whatever for pick and place (which would be like 100:1 or something).

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What does it need 4 feet of Velcro for??? I hope the intention is wire management and not game piece manipulation.

Dual lock (and velcro in general) has a lot of uses (wire management as you said, panel attachment, intake roller grip (especially duel lock, see 2022…))

My guess here is it will be on some intake roller, help a ball up a back plane or something like that where the gamepiece needs some grip.

I hope FIRST learned from 2019 when it comes to velcro for gamepiece manipulation.

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I think those panels being cut by SCS look kind of like a pick-and-place gripper a la Everybot 2022 or 2023, but I’m not sure about it.

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Don’t like they are recommending this as the first option for bumper numbers, it’s so easy to mess up and almost unfixable. Wrong paint type, not waiting for it to dry, slipping when painting, etc…

Was not around in 2019, was the velcro really that bad? From videos I have seen the hatches only really seemed to fall off if you were misaligned when putting them on.

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The product linked is actually Dual Lock which is quite different from Velcro. My team does NOT recommend teams use Dual Lock for electronics in many cases. While it fastens pretty darn well, Dual Lock has the downside of not being able to reattach components easily if they are dislodged during a match. While Velcro will easily stick to itself, Dual Lock requires active mechanical force to press components together.

In a robot match, I personally prefer teams to use several strips of Velcro instead of Dual Lock.

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