[FRC/FTC Blog] Introducing the Future Mobile Robot Controller!

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This is amazing! Read the full blog definitely.

The common component of the control system, which is shared by both programs, is “SystemCore”. This compact controller is powered by the just announced Raspberry Pi CM5 and brings performance through a combination of a quad-core ARM Cortex-A76 processor, 4 GB of RAM, a VideoCore VII GPU, and real-time Linux. The controller also integrates Limelight vision technology, allowing all teams to access powerful vision processing just by plugging in a webcam, reducing system cost and complexity.

I’m wondering how this will affect limelight long-term as they effectively are now included off the bat. Will people still be buying additional limelight cameras?

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This is huge. Multiple CAN buses make CANivore redundant, there is also an integrated IMO and Limelight.

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Can’t wait to see a model!

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They better be working with CTRE to have it integrate whatever the magic sauce in the CANivore like FD and timesync.

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Assuming [as I do] they are getting some revenue from the “[integration of] Limelight vision technology”, this is probably good for them rather than bad for them. I’d much rather have a highly predictable revenue stream from software licensing (even a lower per-unit profit) rather than trying to make and sell hardware at a higher per-unit profit, but where there are ample, excellent competitive products.

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#DOUBT

i REALLY wanted it to be ctre that did the controler. my experience with rev an limelight on software has been… disappointing to say the least.

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I would assume that with the USB ports they can still have all that magic with the CANivore, but I could be wrong.

and the decision to go with limelight a closed source high cost option over open source free photon is WILD to me. photon is MILES better than limelight

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We are switching to photon from limelight for this very reason this year.

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FTC tier hardware and software for FRC, great

At least all of the people that have been begging for a raspberry pi robot controller for years will finally get to discover why they don’t actually want one :sunglasses:

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FIRST HQ will forever confuse and disappoint me…

Choosing Limelight as the vendor, who’s well known for being closed source?

Where’s the camaraderie and gracious professionalism in that?

I would’ve thought for sure REV would have gotten the RFP.

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It’s crazy to me how some people in this thread don’t see this as a giant win.

This is amazing news.

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Yea, I very much wonder what the included limelight component is. It doesn’t sound like hardware, maybe just packaging the software, which could change from year to year even. Also with the more processing power maybe we could run photon on board instead of a coprocessor, thought a co processor will always be an option.

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CAN-FD is an industry standard so no work should be necessary for that.

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Multiple CAN buses was a requirement of the RFP.

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Why use a CANivore when the controller itself has multiple CAN-FD capable buses?

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For the CTRE secret sauce

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Ctre used to be more compatible with other can devices but after an update some time back they…I’m not going to say encrypt but they made their devices a lot more “noisy”. This really limits how well they play nice with other devices.