FRC Mafia 14 Game Thread

So

I definitely thought yesterday was extended, not today, especially because it’s literally not even Thanksgiving anymore. Sorry for not telling y’all about my flight, didn’t realize it would be at EoD!

Anyways, I’m confident enough I won’t die after yesterday to make writing this up in advance well worth it. I’ll be posting this right at SoD and then falling asleep, so I’ll answer any questions you have when I wake up.

First off, I must apologize. It’s obvious to me that trying to play while traveling so much was a mistake, and I’m really sorry I haven’t been able to make that much progress since, like, day 2 or 3.

More importantly than activity, however, I have been wrong this game. Much more wrong than usual. I’d point to how long it’s been since I played more than half of one in-game day, but that would only be an excuse. I was wrong on squirrel, I was wrong on Mika, and I was wrong on k.aylee.

To be honest, I think the chance k.aylee2412 is scum here is exceedingly low. Although we only know four of the scum’s night kills (including tonight), it’s obvious that they are going for impactful and townread players, such as snowman and EricKline, so they aren’t incompetent. Therefore, if we trust in scum not being brain-dead, k.aylee is town.

At an EoD between two town players, one of whom is quack and one of whom is me, I find it incredibly unlikely that a member of the Mafia would unvote me to let quack get lynched over at least taking a 50% chance at getting rid of me. Ergo, she basically has to be town.

@k.aylee2412 sorry this took so long to get to, hopefully you can move forward and help find the real scum from now on.

As for who is scum, I think the wagons are telling.

COUNT
Vote Count Who
Thequackmaster 7 TheFlash JKBear331 hopelessdiamond2412 Mr.Mascot EricH Bepwei orangeandblack5
Mink 1 gellnick
orangeandblack5 6 Thequackmaster Mink Kaitlynmm569 TheRealJamesOo quin
Not Voting 2 k.aylee2412 RuthJP

Let’s remove everyone who I’m extremely confident is town:

COUNT
Vote Count Who
Thequackmaster 2 Mr.Mascot EricH
Mink 1 gellnick
orangeandblack5 3 Mink Kaitlynmm569 quin
Not Voting 1 RuthJP

Note how pretty much the entire PoE pool is gunning for my lynch? While it’s certainly possible for EricH or gellnick to be scum, I’m actively townreading gellnick and townleaning EricH, so at a minimum I see two scum on my wagon.

Fortunately, this puts me in a really, really good position, having survived yesterday - rather than picking out one of 4 scum from 13 players, we now need only pick out one of 2 from 3. And by stacking their votes on me, they’ve done a darn good job of both making it clear I am town, while also making it clear who they are.

In particular, re-reading today’s posts brought quin to my attention. I certainly wouldn’t ignore the others, but note a few things they did today.

First off, asking for lists but not encouraging people to explain why people were placed where they are seems like a great way to look like you are promoting discussion without really doing all that much.

Secondarily, I already got vibes from their interaction with kaitlynn that at least one of the two was scum, and out of those two TwoAndAHalfLads was by far less noticeable, a trait I’m not convinced wasn’t newbie scum trying to lay low.

However, the real kickers were some things I noticed while catching up after my flight landed.

First off, their post voting me also had this big paragraph about how “oh I totally think Mink is scummy but like they’re too scummy to be scum” which is just wrong and seems a lot like wanting to defend a buddy without wanting to seem like you’re on their side.

Notably, the very same Mink they were defending also put me several spots above quack in their list. Guess where their vote ended up (allegedly for “self-preservation” but they weren’t really at any risk of that, really seems like hopping on a bandwagon).

Quin also got into an argument with Bepwei that basically amounted to “I think we should kill the guy who is finding all the town because if we lynch him and he’s town that confirms everyone he found” which is just backwards logic this late in the game. That would have been acceptable on day 2, but by day 5 trying to lynch to confirm town that are already as good as confirmed makes no sense unless you just want more town dead.

Notably, quin’s argument here is just factually incorrect. The only reason I ended up contributing to the two Town players who got lynched on days 1 and 3, Ari and Spork, was to break a tie. Both other days I have not been successful in leading the lynches I wanted to. To paint me as some controlling force pushing mislynches is blatantly and visibly untruthful.

They also start throwing shade at the members of the town bloc on the quack wagon, something scum need to start doing if they want to avoid getting lynched:

I’ll throw in more Mink defense because why not

And additional shade on the town bloc for good measure

In short, a quin/mink scumteam is a near certainty in my eyes, but quin needs to go.

/vote @quin

Now goodnight

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VOTE COUNT
Vote Count Who
Not Voting 12 TheFlash JKBear331 gellnick Mink Kaitlynmm569 hopelessdiamond2412 Mr.Mascot TheRealJamesOo EricH k.aylee2412 quin RuthJP
quin 1 orangeandblack5

#WITH 13 PLAYERS REMAINING, MAJORITY WILL BE 7 VOTES.

I am on for a few minutes now, but have to go soon because it is thanksgiving and parents don’t want me on computer.

i will try to get an orange iso out and a mascot iso out as soon as i finish it later (i can’t finish it now)

Happy Thanksgiving Everyone!

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/vote @orangeandblack5

Happy thanksgiving y’all. I’ll be back tonight

VOTE COUNT
Vote Count Who
Not Voting 11 TheFlash JKBear331 gellnick Mink hopelessdiamond2412 Mr.Mascot TheRealJamesOo EricH k.aylee2412 quin RuthJP
orangeandblack5 1 Kaitlynmm569
quin 1 orangeandblack5

Happy Thanksgiving! I’ll be gone for most of today, too.
Just a note…

DO NOT END DAY WITH MAJORITY TODAY.

Since so many people can’t be on, it would be a little sketchy. I doubt were in danger of this, but still.

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I have no reason to trust you and that your views are true to us the ways to confirm that they are was your death that would shrink our views on to the possibles I want to trust your thoughts here and your reads here but I cannot without something proving that you were town. When I joined I was weary of the lone wagon on yourself that was founded by kaitlyn, this was used by the mafia on myself in the June gloom popcorn game (she was a member but not the one doing it). But I was also weary of the situation that arose in the end of M9 with the “lead” gellnick in that case as mafia and not dying. I went with the situation I saw as more possible as a mafia play and went on to yourself. I know this will not convince yourself but I assure you that you are barking up the wrong tree and I still do not know what is barking up at me. If there is anything else I need to address I would be happy to do so. (You rubbed me towards you once hopeless one of our hardest to find players when mafia as town after one day something was off there)

/vote @orangeandblack5

The bewpei night kill through me off a bit but I am pretty sold that you killed the person in your pocket. And that you and hopelessdiamond2412 could very easily be partners.

With the list what I explain and you solely glossed over was the person at the bottom should not be mafia by math. There was no consensus highly suspicious person of interest at the time so why would the mafia with the number of partners they have be a the bottom or close to it. So why do you feel this and why would the partnership as you stated (myself and mink) put a partner at the bottom of the list without any prompt on for a read on himself. If this makes any sense.

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VOTE COUNT
Vote Count Who
Not Voting 10 TheFlash JKBear331 gellnick Mink hopelessdiamond2412 Mr.Mascot TheRealJamesOo EricH k.aylee2412 RuthJP
orangeandblack5 2 Kaitlynmm569 quin
quin 1 orangeandblack5

I didn’t die? Awful.

I mean if you want to

/shoot @RuthJP

/s

A shot rang out!

Calculating results
Cues in @JKBear331

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Literally what does this mean I do not follow

That’s not how pocketing works. I was one vote away from being hammered yesterday, why the heck would I kill someone who was defending me

That is absolutely not how that works. I have no idea why you seem to think scum can’t “scumread” other scum to help keep their distance, especially when you yourself are so blatant about it. Look at this.

Here’s an excerpt your first actual post of the game:

Clearly, you think Mink is town and worth defending, right?

Apparently not because six posts later your list has him at the bottom!

Yet, you never vote him, instead voting me, who is above Mink on your list, even though our wagon sizes at the time were the exact same.

This is blatant distancing when you give your posts any sort of thorough inspection. You’re trying to get the best of both worlds by defending Mink while also scumreading them. You’ve been caught, and once you two are out it’s only a matter of time until this game is solved.

@Kaitlynmm569 I know you voted me before quin today, but I don’t see in what world their post also doing so makes sense enough to not only read and keep your vote on me, but to like it?

Like did you even read it?

For much the same reasons as yesterday Imma

/vote @Mink

Town:Mafia: 8:5 Votes needed for majority: 5 for orangeandblack5
VOTE COUNT
Vote Count Who
Not Voting 9 TheFlash JKBear331 Mink hopelessdiamond2412 Mr.Mascot TheRealJamesOo EricH k.aylee2412 RuthJP
Mink 1 gellnick
orangeandblack5 2 Kaitlynmm569 quin
quin 1 orangeandblack5
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An hour later

Quack is a duck!

I assume this is the bot but technically that isn’t correct

And why is that?

EDIT: Sorry, I meant to reply to your question in your rolecard PM. Was only half paying attention and didn’t realize this was the game thread.

The Traitor is only full Mafia when they’re found or when scum have majority

Before that point they could be pushing for scum to win but misreading the situation and accidentally harm them