I made several maps (with a lot of help from google ) that kind of show the population density of FRC teams in the United States and the world. The maps are pictures, they used to be charts but it would take several hours for them to load.
Very cool. Thanks for putting this together.
I am struck by the difference between Minnesota and Iowa.
Iām not sure on the exact number, but approximately 34 of Michiganās teams come from 1 county- Oakland. Thatās more than 22 states!
No problem
Yeah when I was making it ,it was really crazy to see the differences between different states. And where the āpopulation densityā was really high.
You should try to make one that does the states by percentage of schools covered.
That would be really challenging considering the multiple school teams that donāt have all the schools in the name (We are an example since we have Jupiter and William T. Dwyer High Schools in our name, but also recruit from 5 other schools) or teams that donāt have have schools like the boys and girls clubs
I never said it would be easy, it would put things in perspective though. Small states right now look like they donāt have as many teams even though they may have a larger percentage covered.
Yes it probably would take a while but itās a good idead. Iāll start trying to make a basic high school percentage map. Because you are right my maps arenāt in the best perspective. One of my team mates also brought up a map that showed percentage of teams near major cities for another perspective.
Teams wih multiple schools wouldnt matter. All you would do is take (# of teams/# of high schools in the state)*100 = % of teams per school per state.
Awesome numbers!
I canāt see the map from work but I was at the Minnesota State Fairās FIRST booth for most of Saturday and I spoke to two leaders of a new FRC team in Iowa, they said something about a FRC regional in Iowa next year. I am thinking they were maybe confused between FRC and FTC but it would be awesome if we had an FRC regional in Iowa! Not entirely sure how they would do it with 4 veteran teams, but still.
The original statement was percentage of schools covered not the percentage of teams in relations to schools so yes multiple school teams do matter
Oh, ya I missread the post. You could still do it that way though. On the FIRST website, each school per team is listed as a sponsor.
Also kind of cool: Toronto has the 2nd highest concentration of any city. FIRST still USA-centric? No.
City, Teams, Population, Est. Percentage of population on a FIRST team
(based on 20 members per team)
Check out Liberty, IN. [strike]11[/strike] 1 team(s) in a town of 2133 people, for an estimated FIRST participation of [strike]10%[/strike] 1% of the population!
Houston, TX, USA 30 2145146 0.0280%
Toronto, ON, Canada 29 2615060 0.0222%
Chicago, IL, USA 28 2707120 0.0207%
Detroit, MI, USA 26 706585 0.0736%
MontrƩal, QC, Canada 19 1649519 0.0230%
Washington, DC, USA 18 617996 0.0583%
San Antonio, TX, USA 18 1359758 0.0265%
San Diego, CA, USA 17 1326179 0.0256%
Kansas City, MO, USA 16 463202 0.0691%
Honolulu, HI, USA 16 374658 0.0854%
Atlanta, GA, USA 16 432427 0.0740%
San Jose, CA, USA 15 967487 0.0310%
Rochester, NY, USA 13 210855 0.1233%
Phoenix, AZ, USA 13 1469471 0.0177%
Dallas, TX, USA 13 1223229 0.0213%
Bronx, NY, USA 13 1392002 0.0187%
Milwaukee, WI, USA 12 597867 0.0401%
Los Angeles, CA, USA 12 3819702 0.0063%
Las Vegas, NV, USA 12 589317 0.0407%
Columbus, OH, USA 12 797434 0.0301%
Baltimore, MD, USA 12 619493 0.0387%
New York, NY, USA 11 8244910 0.0027%
Liberty, IN, USA 1 2133 0.9376%
Brooklyn, NY, USA 11 2532645 0.0087%
St. Louis, MO, USA 10 318069 0.0629%
Richmond, VA, USA 10 205533 0.0973%
Portland, OR, USA 10 593820 0.0337%
Mississauga, ON, Canada 10 713443 0.0280%
Minneapolis, MN, USA 10 387753 0.0516%
Denver, CO, USA 10 619968 0.0323%
Edit: Helps when the source information is valid. Thereās a problem with your numbers, there is only one team, 4058, in Liberty, IN. 1% is still impressive though! (source: https://my.usfirst.org/myarea/index.lasso?page=searchresults&omit_searchform=1&skip_teams=750&-session=myarea:C77D64051437c27563WWUU3C9A2E#FRC_teams)
I donāt think Brooklyn, Queens, Staten Island, or the Bronx count as cities separate from New York Cityā¦
Which highlights the one major problem with the FIRST website location column: The teams fill it out, which means that sometimes you get addresses, and sometimes you get regions. 12 teams in Los Angelesābut if you look at the area around L.A. proper, there are easily enough for 2 small regionals with minimal outside or repeat teams. (And I know that one of the teams at least used to use āSouthern Californiaā as their locationātalk about vague!) Youāre also hoping that nobody misspells their team name.
ā¦Which is why Mark at 358 has been collecting more accurate team locations (in the form of the GPS coordinates of each teamās school) in his All FRC Teams Ever (XLS link) spreadsheet. Heās got just over 20% of them now.
Another oddityā¦
St. Paul, MN - 6
Saint Paul, MN - 5
1075guy, where do your population numbers come from?
In doing an analysis against population, does it make sense to look at numbers by city or some other grouping? Most major cities have significant suburbs that would show up as different cities on the listing. For example, Woodbury, MN has 3 teams, and is about 5 minutes from downtown St. Paul. These suburbs typically have lower population numbers, but could contribute significantly to the number of teams around that city.
Given the data available to us, doing it might be best to do it by state.
Hmm true I have another spreadsheet of all my numbers Iāll check through for errors like this and make another map (looking at the other errors people have pointed out). I got the places from blue alliance then totaled then manually, which is why I have some errors like that and Liberty, IN (sorry about that by the way).
Another problem is duplicate teams. Your tally has 293 more teams than there really are (2339).
Hauppauge, NY for instance is in the list twice, but it only hosts a single team.