FRC Top 25(40) Week 1 Results. Show Link

FIRST General Forum
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Thank you to everyone who tuned in last night for FUN Recap and the return of the FRCTop25!

View the episode here. I’ll put a few time codes into the description so you can jump to the segment you want.

Just a couple notes. Israel events and teams will be eligible for week 2 voting. If you want to know where your team ended up and they are not on the top 40 please shoot me a pm or post here.

We also will bring back the expert and composite poll closer to champs. With so many events it is just too difficult to get a good mix of contributors for each week.

Also if you didn’t see our new segment “Questions” w/FIRST Robotics Kids](https://youtu.be/0eisaJ5rAKA?t=3929)You can view it on our show or the full version on Jordan’s YouTube Page. The next episode will premiere on Recap and then be available on Jordan’s Page.

Thanks everyone! Don’t forget on the FRC Top 25 poll next week when it comes out on Sunday evening.

FRC Top 25 (40) Week 1 Rankings
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1 33
2 811
3 1477
4 2481
5 179
6 624
7 125
8 5687
9 359
10 1285
11 3366
12 2052
13 1058
14 4525
15 3847
16 2512
17 3130
18 386
19 27
20 67
21 233
22 1876
23 5172
24 4939
25 2468
26 195
27 525
28 341
29 4481
30 3683
31 3824
32 1817
33 2200
34 772
35 4272
36 6001
37 234
38 4539
39 1501
40 4063
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I could be wrong… but I think #2 is 118, not 811.

Otherwise, thanks again Tyler! Your content is great!

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Is it an upside down joke?

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You missed the joke…

5

You had to be in the twitch chat to get the joke.

811 Riponauts

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Whoooossshhhhhhhh. Did not see the episode live, thanks guys!

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Just wondering what are these ranks based on?

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80% based on what team numbers random FRC people can think of off the top of their heads, 20% based on how well teams performed

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The community is polled, although I’m not sure if there are other factors they go by

EDIT Basel beat me to it

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Weekly voting by viewers.

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Community vote. It’s the end-all-be-all popularity contest.

12

Makes scene

Wins Hub City gets rank 32.:slight_smile:

13

sense*:wink:

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4063 Wins Hub City gets rank 40
935 Wins Hub City gets no rank

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I would be curious to see how many #1 votes 5687 got, and how many ballots they got left off of.

Like it or not, they are the most effective robot in the world right now at playing the game how it is being played.

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We had the same thing happen to us last year, teams we beat in playoffs got ranked ~20 spots higher.

They had expert rankings last year, those seemed to be a little less biased towards popularity. To be honest these rankings should be taken with a grain of salt. The real rankings are based off blue banners.

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I agree. As it’s been discussed countless times before, this has always just been a popularity contest. Teams who have a preceding history will pop up in the minds of voters more often and get votes as a result. But for the few teams that do break into the list for the first time, it’s a good way to get people to start thinking about them and watch out for their future competitions.

The first part I agree with - these rankings are almost meaningless. However I don’t think blue banners are the be-all end-all way to rank teams either. There’s always a context that needs to be taken into account.

There was something last year about an FRC Power Rankings, I wonder if those will come back…

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How did 230 and 558 do?

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Can confirm this…

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I don’t think blue banners and winning events are the best way to rank teams. Events are won by alliances, not by individual teams. Especially in a game like STEAMworks. Moreover, the elimination tournament is a small sample size event, where a pair of bad matches, fluke incidents, or weird match-ups can send an otherwise tremendous robot home without a banner. How many of you honestly believe that 2056 should have been ranked lower than 610 or 3560 after they lost to them in the Waterloo finals last year?

That being said, these might be the worst rankings in the history of FRC Top 25.