Functional?

Posted by Angelique at 1/17/2001 3:18 PM EST

Student on team #49 from Buena Vista High School.

Hi! What kind of functions do you feel that the robots should have? And if the robot does not have this function, would you choose them for your alliance in the final rounds?

I would really appreciate feedback on these questions.
Thank you
Angie
Team #49

Posted by Tim Baird at 1/17/2001 3:27 PM EST

Engineer on team #190, Gompei, from Massachusetts Academy of Math and Science and WPI.

In Reply to: Functional?
Posted by Angelique on 1/17/2001 3:18 PM EST:

I would like to see a device on the robot that could slow down the clock running the match. That way, we could all have those perfect under 30 second matches that we all dream about without all the stress and trouble. Sure, some of you may be saying “Tim, you know that’s cheating and darn near impossible”, but, I still think it’s a cool idea.
Tim

Posted by Matt Leese at 1/17/2001 6:56 PM EST

Other on team #73, Tigerbolt, from Edison Technical HS and Alstom & Rochester Institute of Technology.

In Reply to: Re: Functional?
Posted by Tim Baird on 1/17/2001 3:27 PM EST:

Well, if you accelerate your robot fast enough, time will slow down for the robot (ie relativity)…

Matt who continues to realize how true Andy B.'s comments about EE is true…

Posted by Ken Leung at 1/17/2001 10:33 PM EST

Student on team #192, Gunn Robotics Team, from Henry M. Gunn Senior High School.

In Reply to: Re: Functional?
Posted by Matt Leese on 1/17/2001 6:56 PM EST:

: Well, if you accelerate your robot fast enough, time will slow down for the robot (ie relativity)…

: Matt who continues to realize how true Andy B.'s comments about EE is true…

I think you got it the wrong way. The way you say it, the time in the reference frame of the robot will take longer to pass than the outside world. Say the time slow down by 1/2, then when the round ended, the robot have only been through 1 minute because the time on the robot take longer time to pass. So you end up with a really slow robot. Because if the robot can go back and forth the field 10 times in a game, then given 1/2 the time the robot can only go back and forth 5 times. The robot will still thinks there are 1/2 more game time to go, while the viewers see that the game is done.

So what you have to do to get the concept to work is to somehow accelerate the clock to near light speed, so to outside world the clock will seems slower.

Posted by Matt Leese at 1/17/2001 10:40 PM EST

Other on team #73, Tigerbolt, from Edison Technical HS and Alstom & Rochester Institute of Technology.

In Reply to: relativity…
Posted by Ken Leung on 1/17/2001 10:33 PM EST:

Well, to speed up the robots frame of reference all you have to do is have it go real, real slow. Basically that means as close to absolutely no movement as possible (we’re talking on an atomic level). Or the other possibility is to just speed up the field and leave the robot at a normal speed. I wanna see someone try THAT.

Matt

Posted by Anton Abaya at 1/18/2001 1:09 AM EST

Coach on team #419, Rambots, from UMass Boston / BC High and NASA, Mathsoft, Solidworks.

In Reply to: Re: relativity…
Posted by Matt Leese on 1/17/2001 10:40 PM EST:

: Well, to speed up the robots frame of reference all you have to do is have it go real, real slow. Basically that means as close to absolutely no movement as possible (we’re talking on an atomic level). Or the other possibility is to just speed up the field and leave the robot at a normal speed. I wanna see someone try THAT.

: Matt

hehe… havent u read joe johnson’s whitepapers!?! he says, your robot speed should be best between 8>x>1mph.

light speed…tsk tsk. try to remember our size limit.

-anton

Posted by Josh at 1/18/2001 9:50 PM EST

Engineer on team #419, Rambots, from Wentworth Institute of Technology.

In Reply to: why dont you guys just make a nuclear engine or something…
Posted by Anton Abaya on 1/18/2001 1:09 AM EST:

: light speed…tsk tsk. try to remember our size limit.

: -anton

How about a time altering device that allows you to stop time. you create sensors on your robot to autonimate itself, and then it can put balls int eh goals, drag the robots to the other side, drag the goals on the bridge, and then unpause time, and slam the button in a period of a second.

Hey, it could work…

Josh
“we live and die and wonder why” -anonymous

Posted by Matt Leese at 1/20/2001 11:36 PM EST

Other on team #73, Tigerbolt, from Edison Technical HS and Alstom & Rochester Institute of Technology.

In Reply to: Re: why dont you guys just make a nuclear engine or something…
Posted by Josh on 1/18/2001 9:50 PM EST:

I believe the general FIRST answer to whether or not that is legal is that if you can build something like that, why are you using it in this competition and not patenting it and making money off it…

Matt

Posted by mike o’leary at 1/23/2001 4:20 PM EST

Student on team #419, rambots, from bc high.

In Reply to: Re: why dont you guys just make a nuclear engine or something…
Posted by Matt Leese on 1/20/2001 11:36 PM EST:

: I believe the general FIRST answer to whether or not that is legal is that if you can build something like that, why are you using it in this competition and not patenting it and making money off it…

: Matt

the other thing is if you do make one you win by default
mike

Posted by Rob DeCotiis at 1/17/2001 7:33 PM EST

Student on team #504, RoBUCtics, from Red Bank Regional High School and Jesel.

In Reply to: Re: Functional?
Posted by Tim Baird on 1/17/2001 3:27 PM EST:

tim,
how bout one that fries the clock??? (EMP, EMP!!!)
Rob

Posted by Brian at 1/17/2001 4:53 PM EST

Student on team #56, Robbe Xtreme, from Bound Brook High School and Ethicon Inc…

In Reply to: Functional?
Posted by Angelique on 1/17/2001 3:18 PM EST:

It all depends on what complements your robot as an ally

Brian Team 56

Posted by Michael Martus at 1/17/2001 5:35 PM EST

Coach on team #47, Chief Delphi, from Pontiac Central H.S. and Delphi Automotives Systems.

In Reply to: Functional?
Posted by Angelique on 1/17/2001 3:18 PM EST:

We feel that there are 4 functions that need to be done during a match:

  1. GateKeeper - control the ramp
  2. Ball scoring machine
  3. Power machine to tow and pull goals
  4. Utility player, can do 1,2,3

This seems to make sense to us.

Posted by Ken Leung at 1/17/2001 10:37 PM EST

Student on team #192, Gunn Robotics Team, from Henry M. Gunn Senior High School.

In Reply to: Re: Functional?
Posted by Michael Martus on 1/17/2001 5:35 PM EST:

I feel that there should be a balancer robot to balance goal(s) on the bridge, well I mean, getting those multiplier will be nice. Then the remaining robots should be able to get in the end zone with whatever means of accomplishing that.

Posted by Dodd Stacy at 1/17/2001 11:21 PM EST

Engineer on team #95, Lebanon Robotics Team, from Lebanon High School and CRREL/CREARE.

In Reply to: a balancer
Posted by Ken Leung on 1/17/2001 10:37 PM EST:

OK, Ken. We’ll team with Gunn in Orlando, if we get the bon chance, and balance two goals on the bridge, maybe after putting two big balls on top. What will you guys bring to the party?

Dodd

: I feel that there should be a balancer robot to balance goal(s) on the bridge, well I mean, getting those multiplier will be nice. Then the remaining robots should be able to get in the end zone with whatever means of accomplishing that.