I’m watching Suffield Shakedown and I see a lot of robots starting out autonomous with the entire robot on the key. Why are they doing this? We were just going to put the two back wheels on the key to be as close to the baskets as possible. Is that not allowed? How come I don’t see anyone else doing that?
Q&A defines contact with the key (in relation to [R28], but it would also apply to [R01]):
Q. What is the definition of “in contact with its Key”? Is it one wheel touching the edge of the key, all wheels on the key, a portion of the bumper or frame overhanging the vertical projection of the key?
FRC1051 2012-01-20
A. There is no formal definition of “contact”, so the colloquial definition is valid here, “the act or state of touching” (from dictionary.com).
I was at the Nashua NH scrimmage today (full of official FIRST people) and every robot had to start with at least one wheel on the key. That’s really the only possible way to touch it, seeing as appendages aren’t allowed to extend before the match begins.
The refs would only allow the match to start if every robot had at least one wheel on the key. I’m not sure if that was just something to do with the scrimmage, but that’s what I would count on as being the minimum requirement. Dangling things might be considered a safety hazard.
How would they be considered a safety hazard? Additionally, if someone tried to make contact with the key with an item other than the wheel but wasn’t allowed, the refs were calling it incorrectly.
That may have just been the way the refs at the scrimmage were calling it and not how it’ll actually be in the real competitions. The Q&A seems to have been more lenient than the refs.
The rule is in contact. It does not specify what makes the contact, or how much force is needed to make contact. Any call where a robot is making contact but is ruled not to be should be brought to the Head Ref’s attention immediately.
(BTW: It’s not the first time the Suffield refs have been tougher than the rules. I remember hearing that they called a penalty that wasn’t a penalty from the Manual a few years back–Q&A later clarified that it wasn’t a penalty).
Is the key considered the flat surface on the carpet or is it a vertical plane that goes to infinity like the 84" reach rule like last year? And if it is an infinite vertical plane, that means you should just be able to have an part of your robot just sticking out over it to be considered safe, i.e. your bridge knocker.
Remember that if any of your little dangling touch devices go outside the frame perimeter, they become appendages. Only one appendage is allowed outside the FP at any given time.