Ok I kno this is a contrivertial topic n’ all but I was wondering how many of you out there beleive in God? And if you do or don’t y or y not?
if there was a god, then who created god?
If there was a God he would be there from the start. The logic of God being there is that he has been there since the beginning. God has always been there and always will be.
The only evidence I’ve ever found for God is that Pi is Pi, and not just 3.
God must be purposefully making the math harder.
-Andy A.
*Originally posted by geo *
**if there was a god, then who created god? **
If there was a Big Bang where did the singularity come from? (by which point I mean that we know that the universe has a definate ‘starting point.’ The logic is that for the Big Bang to happen, all the conditions that caused it to happen would have had to existed . . but if the conditions were not caused by an outside power then they would have always existed, and therefore the big bang would have gone off an infinite amount of time ago . . a paradox. The argument is that god is the uncaused cause.
I believe in a god, but I don’t believe that god takes an active role in influencing human life, nor do I accept Catholicism ( i was raised Catholic).
I belief that any belief/prayer should be personal and not a public ceremony. But thats just me.
I’d rather not get into all my views on the topic of religion, for fear that this thread would be closed in about 2 picoseconds, but the basic jist of it is that I believe there is some sort of greater force, perhaps not “God” per se, but something that created everything else. It might not be sentinent, it might be, but it’s there, although not taking an active role in the universe at the moment. It’s sort of a twisted deism (I think that’s spelled right).
I was raised Jewish, but I believe that everything that comes from the Torah and stuff is not from “God”, but stories told similar to Aesop’s Fables, something to tell you how to live, and hwo to treat others, so that your life will be fullfilling and meaningful.
Oh well, in any case, I’m still going to synagogue this weekend for Rosh Hashanah, and I did my Eagle Project at my synagogue, so I’m not completely against what Judiasm teaches :p.
If you really want to hear all my theories on religion itself, PM me or something, cause as I said before, it’s sure to start a flamewar here…
*Originally posted by Blacknight *
Ok I kno this is a contrivertial topic n’ all
Yep…
We should place bets… er, ventures, on how long it will be before this thread gets closed. 
As for the topic, I’m an atheist. I don’t spend my time caring about it - I just don’t care.
*Originally posted by Frank(Aflak) *
If there was a Big Bang where did the singularity come from? (by which point I mean that we know that the universe has a definate [sic] ‘starting point.’ The logic is that for the Big Bang to happen, all the conditions that caused it to happen would have had to existed . . but if the conditions were not caused by an outside power then they would have always existed, and therefore the big bang would have gone off an infinite amount of time ago . . a paradox. The argument is that god is the uncaused cause.
The Big Bang singularity contained our dimensions. Space and time are dimensions. Before the Big Bang there was no time, no space, no nothing. Does this paradox answer your question? 
This has already been well discussed on these forums… many opionions are here.
My reply is the same as it was then. Currently, this thread is benign. Keep the attacks and criticisms out of it and it will be OK. My opinions are different from many here, but that is OK.
Andy B.
*Originally posted by Andy Baker *
**This has already been well discussed on these forums… many opionions are here.My reply is the same as it was then. Currently, this thread is benign. Keep the attacks and criticisms out of it and it will be OK. My opinions are different from many here, but that is OK.
Andy B. **
Heh. I was about to say the exact same thing. Sadly, however, all but the first of my posts in that thread are immaterial.
Play nice, children.
Yes.
God is real.
I believe in God… although my faith in my religion is shakey at best, I do believe in God.
Yeah… I’d rather not go into my views of religion too, also for fear of this topic being closed faster than you can say “Brandon Martus”
Brandon Martus!
Alright, who said that! I’ll send a hurricane your way!!!
Er, back on topic, I’ll keep it brief. I don’t like it when many different people try to sell me many different angles on life. So I have never been religious in my life. Science disproves everything religion tries to prove anyway. Personally, I don’t believe in god, but I do think this should be a serious conversation nonetheless.
Religion is based on faith, without facts and logic the way science is supported. I don’t like believing something “just because.”
Well, I’m Roman Catholic, but I don’t belive in the God that is on the Simpsons, where there is a guy with a white beard up in the clouds. I think God is why things are and how they work. I don’t think god runs around and helps with our lives. I think God just keeps everying ok through checks and blanaces.
But the best part of God is that you just have to know, there isn’t a 100% proof that God is real. I know that us geeks hate just beliveing just because, but I do it.
end rant
I am raised in a protestant home. and i do Believe in God. I have gone to a christian school all my life. If you look at charlie darwins life at the end of his life he said that his theory could not be right and he did acknowledge that evolution can be real. (right now i am gonna start talkinga bout different beliefs ia m not putting it down so dont get on my back just my opinion) Just look at the most simplest cell in your body. Even tho its the most simplest scientist cant even make a 100% diagram of it. HOw could that just come together. Gosh i wish i had philosphy HW this weekend so i would have my notebook. God is the beginning this is nothing before him. Gosh i really wish i had my bible notes here well if anyone wants to debate or talk with me you can pm me
After putting ~30 minutes of thought into analyzing my beliefs I’d say that I don’t believe in a God or multiple Gods. But I might be open to the old “clock maker(s) who walked away from his/her/their creation” concept. In any case, I don’t feel the need to attend a church service, and I do believe in nothingness (aside from lots of rotting [except for those who are cremated]) after death. I’m even less inclined to accept documents written by people (and are therefore fallible) as the word/command of a God. This isn’t to say that I don’t respect peoples’ beliefs in their Gods. I think people should be perfectly free to practice their religions as they wish. I just don’t want people to attempt to force me to join in (“Under God” in the Pledge of Allegiance, “In God We Trust” on money, the 10 Commandments on display for the public in Local, State, and Federal buildings, et cetera). I guess I’ll stop before I start some sort of flame war.
Not this again!
Yes this again…
Srry didn’t notice the religion post earlier, but I have been having this debate w/ some of my friends on anther site and it is been going on for about a week, and it’s already over 14 pages. And I was just wondering how many religious ppl we have in FIRST.
Personally I beleive there is a God. And for those who don’t beleive, just look at nature and tell me that it all came from a pile of inorganic matter, and works so perfectly now. God’s out there…
If it didn’t work perfectly, we wouldn’t be here wondering about it. Evidence has shown that the universe is infinitely large, and uniformly ful of matter, so why can’t it have happened?