Hardest FRC Off-season Competitions

What do y’all think the hardest offseasons are?

The only three that I know is hard is the Indiana Robotics Invitational (IN), Texas Robotics Invitational (TX), and Chezy Champs (CA).

The STEMLY cup is by far and away the strongest offseason event up here in Ontario. There are also some pretty competitive state championships run in the off season that reach similar levels of difficulty.

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Of the Michigan offseasons, I’d have to say MARC or Kettering Kickoff. I’d probably give an edge to KK but MARC this year was pretty stacked.

IRI just finished yesterday and that is definitely up there.

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Battlecry is pretty competitive

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2018 offseason events by average elo
Event (2018) Average elo
Indiana Robotics Invitational 1782.67
Chezy Champs 1758.21
Kettering Kickoff 1666.68
Peak Performance 1664.85
Bloomfield Girls Robotics Competition 1657.25
ROBO-CON FRC Off Season Competition 1645.92
The STEMley Cup Championship 1645.03
Ramp Riot 1643.89
HAVOC 1639.04
Summer Heat 1635.05
Fall Fiesta Varsity 1632.96
Duel on the Delaware 1626.47
Texas Robotics Invitational 1623.97
Michigan Advanced Robotics Competition 1620.52
WVROX 1619.52
CT FIRST State Robotics Championship 1617.88
Grand Rapids Girls Robotics Competition 1615.52
Beantown Blitz 1613.69
MSHSL FIRST State Robotics Championship 1612.22
Washington Girls’ Generation 2018 1611.78
Beach Blitz 1611.78
Texas UIL State Championship 1610.13
Battle Of the Bay 5 1609.
RiverRage 22 1607.03
Brunswick Eruption 2018 1602.88
Robots@CNE 1602.26
BattleCry 19 1602.14
MidKnight Mayhem 1601.
Hudson Valley Rally 1598.36
South Carolina Robotics Invitational & Workshops VIII 1595.06
LA Fleet Week Battleship Blast (Day 2) 1594.94
Rah Cha Cha Ruckus 1593.05
Mayhem in Merrimack 1592.04
Great Lakes Bay Bot Bash 1591.42
LA Fleet Week Battleship Blast (Day 3) 1589.67
MadTown Throwdown 1587.56
FSU Roboday 1586.89
Rumble in the Roads 1586.52
Big Bang! 1585.96
Missouri State Championship 1583.31
Battle O’ Baltimore 1581.81
Battle at the Border 1579.57
WOW Alliance District Championship 1576.78
Boiler Bot Battle 1574.25
Rock River Offseason Competition 1570.88
IROC 1569.44
Beach Bot Battle 1568.29
Sanghi Foundation FIRST Robotics Competition Arizona State Championship 1567.93
The Governor’s Cup (NH) 1567.05
Thundering Herd of Robots (THOR) 1566.52
Bots on the Bay 1566.17
Minnesota Robotics Invitational 1565.77
GRITS 2018 1563.48
Ozark Mountain Brawl 1562.25
Cow Town ThrowDown 1561.94
LA Fleet Week Battleship Blast (Day 1) 1561.77
Tech Valley Robot Rumble 1558.59
Robotics Championship China & Qianjiang International Robotics Invitational 1552.68
EMCC 1549.63
Texas Robot Roundup 1546.18
Half Hollow Hills Invitational 1546.18
The Minne Mini Regional 1545.51
Secret City Invitational 1544.56
Capital City Classic 1543.52
2018 CORI Invitational 1538.07
NMRC Championship 1530.
NTX Tournament of Robots 1528.3
Red Stick Rumble 1523.04
Mahoning Valley Robotics Challenge 1522.25
Fall Fiesta Junior 1520.63
STEMGals 1514.4
CalGames 1513.28
China Robotics Challenge 1497.84
Region China Champions 1490.76
Turkish Robotics Off-Season 1447.07
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IRI and Cheezy Champs are in a level all their own.
Offical event wise MSC and other district championships set the pace.

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IRI
Chezy Champs
Kettering Kickoff
Texas Robot Invitational
STEMly Cup
Battlecry
WVROX

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WOW championship, with IRI as a close second, because of a certain three-time regional winning powerhouse making it ugly

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Almost every off-season event has above 1500 average Elo (and the three that don’t are from new regions where there aren’t as many teams with over 1500 Elo). It would seem that good teams are frequent attenders of off-season events.

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The average elo for offseason events is 1586.41, while the average for on-season events was 1543.26. As an average across many teams it’s a fairly big difference, but not quite as big as I expected.

2018 events by average elo
Event Average elo Is offseason
Indiana Robotics Invitational 1782.67 True
Chezy Champs 1758.21 True
Einstein Field (Detroit) 1737.91
Einstein Field (Houston) 1713.73
Michigan State Championship 1700.86
New England District Championship 1671.09
Kettering Kickoff 1666.68 True
Tesla Division 1665.39
Peak Performance 1664.85 True
Carson Division 1661.63
Darwin Division 1661.21
FIRST Ontario Provincial Championship 1660.35
Bloomfield Girls Robotics Competition 1657.25 True
Michigan State Championship - Ford Division 1656.9
Curie Division 1655.85
Michigan State Championship - Dow Division 1648.08
Michigan State Championship - DTE Energy Foundation Division 1647.76
Turing Division 1647.63
ROBO-CON FRC Off Season Competition 1645.92 True
The STEMley Cup Championship 1645.03 True
Michigan State Championship - Consumers Energy Division 1644.58
Ramp Riot 1643.89 True
FIRST Mid-Atlantic District Championship 1643.18
Archimedes Division 1640.
Pacific Northwest District Championship 1639.95
HAVOC 1639.04 True
Summer Heat 1635.05 True
Daly Division 1634.54
Fall Fiesta Varsity 1632.96 True
Duel on the Delaware 1626.47 True
Texas Robotics Invitational 1623.97 True
Michigan Advanced Robotics Competition 1620.52 True
WVROX 1619.52 True
Week 0 1618.52
CT FIRST State Robotics Championship 1617.88 True
Central New York Regional 1616.03
Grand Rapids Girls Robotics Competition 1615.52 True
Indiana State Championship 1615.5
Beantown Blitz 1613.69 True
MSHSL FIRST State Robotics Championship 1612.22 True
Washington Girls’ Generation 2018 1611.78 True
Beach Blitz 1611.78 True
Texas UIL State Championship 1610.13 True
Battle Of the Bay 5 1609. True
FIRST Ontario Provincial Championship - Science Division 1608.68
RiverRage 22 1607.03 True
Brunswick Eruption 2018 1602.88 True
Robots@CNE 1602.26 True
BattleCry 19 1602.14 True
Hopper Division 1601.25
MidKnight Mayhem 1601. True
Newton Division 1600.78
Hudson Valley Rally 1598.36 True
Galileo Division 1595.09
South Carolina Robotics Invitational & Workshops VIII 1595.06 True
LA Fleet Week Battleship Blast (Day 2) 1594.94 True
FIRST North Carolina State Championship 1593.22
Rah Cha Cha Ruckus 1593.05 True
Mayhem in Merrimack 1592.04 True
MAR District Springside Chestnut Hill Academy Event 1591.97
Great Lakes Bay Bot Bash 1591.42 True
FIRST Chesapeake District Championship 1589.95
LA Fleet Week Battleship Blast (Day 3) 1589.67 True
IN District St. Joseph Event 1588.48
MadTown Throwdown 1587.56 True
Carver Division 1587.56
IN District Plainfield Event sponsored by Toyota 1587.31
FSU Roboday 1586.89 True
Rumble in the Roads 1586.52 True
Big Bang! 1585.96 True
Missouri State Championship 1583.31 True
NE District Waterbury Event 1582.24
Battle O’ Baltimore 1581.81 True
FIM District Milford Event 1581.
Roebling Division 1580.85
MAR District Westtown Event 1580.38
Battle at the Border 1579.57 True
MAR District Hatboro-Horsham Event 1579.18
WOW Alliance District Championship 1576.78 True
FIRST Ontario Provincial Championship - Technology Division 1575.43
Boiler Bot Battle 1574.25 True
PNW District Mount Vernon Event 1572.33
PNW District Glacier Peak Event 1571.64
Rock River Offseason Competition 1570.88 True
FIM District St. Joseph Event 1570.25
IROC 1569.44 True
Beach Bot Battle 1568.29 True
Sanghi Foundation FIRST Robotics Competition Arizona State Championship 1567.93 True
The Governor’s Cup (NH) 1567.05 True
Thundering Herd of Robots (THOR) 1566.52 True
Miami Valley Regional 1566.41
Bots on the Bay 1566.17 True
Minnesota Robotics Invitational 1565.77 True
NE District Southern CT Event 1564.3
GRITS 2018 1563.48 True
Arizona North Regional 1562.62
Ozark Mountain Brawl 1562.25 True
Cow Town ThrowDown 1561.94 True
LA Fleet Week Battleship Blast (Day 1) 1561.77 True
Peachtree District State Championship 1561.56
Central Illinois Regional 1560.81
NE District SE Mass Event 1559.98
NE District Rhode Island Event 1558.79
NE District Worcester Polytechnic Institute Event 1558.73
FIM District Kettering University Event #2 1558.62
Tech Valley Robot Rumble 1558.59 True
NE District Pine Tree Event 1558.15
FIM District Lincoln Event 1557.46
MAR District Seneca Event 1557.28
IN District Tippecanoe Event 1557.
MAR District Montgomery Event 1556.03
ONT District University of Waterloo Event 1555.63
ONT District McMaster University Event 1555.53
FIRST Israel District Championship 1555.38
PNW District Auburn Mountainview Event 1554.23
CHS District Northern Virginia Event 1552.92
Robotics Championship China & Qianjiang International Robotics Invitational 1552.68 True
Aerospace Valley Regional 1552.42
Heartland Regional 1550.28
EMCC 1549.63 True
FIM District Forest Hills Event 1549.4
FIM District West Michigan Event 1549.38
PNW District Wilsonville Event 1549.24
FIM District Waterford Event 1548.23
Barker Redbacks Week 0 Scrimmage 1546.71
MAR District Mount Olive Event 1546.6
South Florida Regional 1546.25
Texas Robot Roundup 1546.18 True
Half Hollow Hills Invitational 1546.18 True
FIM District Troy Event 1545.58
The Minne Mini Regional 1545.51 True
Idaho Regional 1545.36
Secret City Invitational 1544.56 True
Finger Lakes Regional 1544.38
PCH District Gainesville Event 1544.3
NE District North Shore Event 1543.98
Palmetto Regional 1543.89
Rochester Rally 1543.61
Capital City Classic 1543.52 True
Las Vegas Regional 1543.48
Greater Pittsburgh Regional 1542.98
Great Northern Regional 1542.09
FIM District Gibraltar Event 1541.42
PNW District Auburn Event 1541.39
San Diego Regional presented by Qualcomm 1541.21
Regal Eagle Rampage 1540.82
MAR District Bridgewater-Raritan Event 1540.75
Colorado Regional 1540.02
CHS District Greater DC Event co-sponsored by Micron 1539.66
PNW District SunDome Event 1538.68
Seven Rivers Regional 1538.13
2018 CORI Invitational 1538.07 True
St. Louis Regional 1537.69
FIM District Traverse City Event 1537.58
Wisconsin Regional 1537.02
New York Tech Valley Regional 1536.66
Utah Regional 1536.58
Hub City Regional 1534.58
ONT District Georgian College Event 1533.86
NE District Hartford Event 1533.
PNW District Clackamas Academy Event 1531.22
Buckeye Regional 1531.
NMRC Championship 1530. True
Orlando Regional 1529.86
PNW District West Valley Event 1529.14
El Paso Regional 1529.14
NTX Tournament of Robots 1528.3 True
Central Valley Regional 1528.02
CHS District Southwest Virginia Event sponsored by Anton Paar 1528.
FIM District Gaylord Event 1527.6
Hudson Valley Regional 1527.3
Arkansas Rock City Regional 1526.89
FIM District East Kentwood Event 1526.8
PNW District Lake Oswego Event 1525.14
Lone Star South Regional 1525.1
Red Stick Rumble 1523.04 True
FIM District Gull Lake Event 1522.88
Sacramento Regional 1522.8
ONT District North Bay Event 1522.69
Mahoning Valley Robotics Challenge 1522.25 True
Dallas Regional 1522.15
NC District UNC Pembroke Event 1521.92
ONT District Windsor Essex Great Lakes Event 1521.35
FIM District Kettering University Event #1 1521.24
FIM District Belleville Event 1521.2
Fall Fiesta Junior 1520.63 True
Rocket City Regional 1520.07
Silicon Valley Regional 1518.32
San Francisco Regional 1518.16
Midwest Regional 1517.2
ISR District Event #1 1516.88
NC District UNC Asheville Event 1516.41
ONT District Ryerson University Event 1515.46
FIM District Marysville Event 1514.95
STEMGals 1514.4 True
ONT District York University Event 1513.81
CalGames 1513.28 True
PCH District Duluth Event 1512.92
NE District Granite State Event 1511.83
SBPLI Long Island Regional #2 1510.73
FIM District Livonia Event 1510.2
CHS District Central Virginia Event sponsored by Dominion Energy 1510.19
Los Angeles Regional 1509.61
NC District Pitt County Event 1509.3
Lone Star Central Regional 1509.28
Smoky Mountains Regional 1508.38
PCH District Albany Event 1508.27
Lake Superior Regional 1507.65
Oklahoma Regional 1507.46
Southern Cross Regional 1507.23
Hawaii Regional 1506.76
FIM District Midland Event 1506.53
NE District Greater Boston Event 1506.21
Iowa Regional 1506.1
Canadian Rockies Regional 1504.49
FIM District Escanaba Event 1504.46
FIM District Lansing Event 1504.43
FIM District Shepherd Event 1504.
ONT District Durham College Event 1503.61
Ventura Regional 1501.1
FIM District Southfield Event 1499.65
West Central Week 0 1499.43
Greater Kansas City Regional 1498.14
ISR District Event #4 1498.
China Robotics Challenge 1497.84 True
CHS District Central Maryland Event sponsored by Leidos 1497.53
NE District UNH Event 1497.17
Minnesota North Star Regional 1496.41
CHS District Southern Maryland Event 1496.34
Arizona West Regional 1495.79
SBPLI Long Island Regional #1 1495.17
Bayou Regional 1495.04
Festival de Robotique - Montreal Regional 1494.64
Orange County Regional 1494.62
Northern Lights Regional 1494.26
FIM District Lakeview Event 1493.
CHS District Hampton Roads Event sponsored by Newport News Shipbuilding 1492.68
FIM District Alpena Event 1491.35
Region China Champions 1490.76 True
Medtronic Foundation Regional 1490.
NC District Forsyth County Event 1487.
ISR District Event #2 1486.97
FIM District Lake Superior State University Event 1486.85
ISR District Event #3 1486.33
Canadian Pacific Regional 1482.77
New York City Regional 1480.31
PCH District Dalton Event 1480.24
South Pacific Regional 1477.9
Monterrey Regional 1477.6
Laguna Regional 1476.56
Alamo Regional 1472.75
ONT District Western University, Western Engineering Event 1471.82
PCH District Columbus Event 1468.09
Shenzhen Regional 1467.94
FIM District Center Line Event 1467.73
Shanghai Regional 1458.75
Istanbul Regional 1447.32
Turkish Robotics Off-Season 1447.07 True
Onseason vs Offseason average event elo

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Something to remember: not all offseasons get added to TBA. Im not sure what percentage isint added, but i think it would be enough to shift the average offseason elo a good bit.

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Most offseason events have new drivers (especially in the Fall) so I think the quality of driving goes down a whole lot with the amount of inexperience on display.

18 out of the 94 offseason events did not have team data.

There are also events that don’t get added to TBA at all.

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I think average ELO slightly knocks bigger off-seasons, like Battlecry and Rah Cha Cha Ruckus, which I’d say are relatively difficult off-season events to win.

EDIT: I think an average of Top 24 teams would be better potentially?

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Agreed. I heard a rumour that 217 had an all-rookie drive team at IRI, can someone from 217 confirm or refute that? I think a lot of people were surprised that the reigning Detroit champs struggled so mightily at IRI.

Battlecry is only competitive in playoffs, in my opinion. Quals are very relaxed with little planning per match. Source: am on team 190, we run the event.

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Ramp Riot is definitely the premier FMA offseason IMO. Its got the some of the best teams in PA, some from NJ and the best in DE.

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I talked to the Chickens during the event. They were having serious connection issues.