Hardest FRC Off-season Competitions

they had a new drive team and their camera wasn’t functioning properly i heard from my friend on 217 however there could’ve been more i do not know about

It does vary by year I believe. Going year over year identifying the deepest field in FMA offseasons, my choices would be these:

2013: RR
2014: MKM
2015: RR
2016: MKM
2017: MKM
2018: BE

Throwing has happened before, I can identify at least one case in 2015. I hate the rule because it creates conflicting incentives for teams to either help their partners or throw matches. For us personally, it’s prevented us from picking the robot we would prefer to pick 4 times at Ramp Riot and 4 times at Duel on the Delaware.

You also have lots of high profile teams that just run new drivers and seed lower, then bring out their season drivers for playoffs to dodge the rule.

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i totally forgot that RR is 2 days this year. That would definitely be interesting to see if the rule change is still kept with 2 days of quals.

I wouldn’t assume this is about dodging the rule. Many teams approach off-season events with the intention of training drivers, often multiple crews in an attempt to spread out experience and identify future driver candidates. 1712 typically enters an off-season event with anywhere between 2 and 5 drive crews, and rotates between them during qualifications. During eliminations we select the one that performed best that day, in order to ensure we’re giving our alliance partners the best odds at advancing. Sometimes those drivers end up being our in season drivers, sometimes they don’t (our playoff driver in our 2017 Ramp Riot win ended up being our technician in the 2018 season, for instance).

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Aye it’s not always ill-intended, but I’ve seen it happen >5 times from the 1 or 2 seed at Duel/Ramp Riot where a team starts running season drivers and dramatically increases in performance. It may not be explicitly the strategy, but it’s a side effect of these events both being offseasons and implementing this alliance selection format that once the teams are there and in this position, they play that way.

I wasn’t at IRI, but I can fill you in. During the last Einstein final match, our robot fell when climbing. This basically destroyed the camera, messed up the climb mechanism, vision, the arm was a little off, and a couple other things. We just couldn’t fix it in time.

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Ah, thanks for the insight. Very unfortunate but I guess when you end up with a WC it kinda softens the blow :slight_smile:

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