Per <R59> I think if it were repaired, it wouldn’t be competition legal. In fact since it sounds like it’s already been disassembled, it wouldn’t be competition legal.
maybe i do not know but i was able to get the circuit board out and there are 2 chips on the front panel that look like they have yellow ink on them maybe that is the reason
Yes, it appears <R59> precludes it from being used for competition, but it would at least be able to be used for testing, and give the team time to acquire a replacement.
what do you mean we get a free one or what…?
Rule R59. Thanks for bringing this to my attention.
I agree with the rule of changing the configuration of the component, but simply opening the case forces you to buy new units to use in the competition? No. I do not agree with that.
We currently have an Analog breakout module with a blown 5V 3A regulator. Nothing against AndyMark, but they want $24.00 for a replacement. The faulty IC can be bought for $4.
If a local shop were to repair this module, then the part isn’t legal in competition? No modifications were made to the circuitry.
An exception should be added to this rule. A team that declares a component was repaired, and has documentation that the circuitry wasn’t altered from the original design should be allowed to compete with that component.
Again, I stress that opening the cRio, or one of those plug in modules is a terrible idea and is asking for trouble. These are too complex and should only be handled by NI. The same goes with the drivers station, the game adapter, the camera, Digital sidecars,and the Linksys router.
Everything else should be loosened a little to take into account for custom circuits. I may not want to use the analog breakout, but design my own interface with a 8 to 1 multiplexer on every input pin. This should be allowed. I have no intention of doing this, but just throwing it out as an example.
so with my team even if we fix it, we can not use it. and we have to spend $100 to get a new one?
Jim, you may want to pose your question to the Q&A. It may be legal to attach your custom circuit to the second 9201 modules - I do not know. It would be interesting though…
back to my problem do i get a free one or a cheep on or what…?
Not to sound rude, but… you did not follow the directions and hooked up your gaming adapter wrong and apparently wrecked it. Why would FIRST give you a free replacement for something that could have easily been avoided by simply following the directions they provided?
You can certainly ask on the official Q&A if you want, but I’m fairly certain they’ll tell you to go buy a new one from Best Buy or somewhere else at full price. FIRST can’t afford to give away spares to every team.
In my country, if we burn some electronic equipment, you cannnot go to the regionals in Los Angeles, because we live so far from USA and we wait about 3 weeks to the package arrive here…
alright thnxs for the help:D
Nope. You made a mistake, and the price for this very valuable knowledge is about $90 plus shipping.
Just like real life.
Be sure to read the manual before you fry your cRio, since that lesson is a lot more expensive…
okay thanks again we actually found one for about 75 so we should be good
In some cases you can get a replacement from the spare parts place at competition. In most cases you have to return it after the competition though.