Have you seen the new inspection check list. The first line states that we must Team name and/or logo and Team number on 4 sides.
We went by the inspection checklist that was in the manual and it said 2 sides. We do not have places to put our numbers on the front and back of the robot and besides that it has been shipped.
Is there anyother team that is having this problem or am I reading the inspection checklist wrong?
Rule M7
Robots must display their team number, sponsor and school names and/or logos. The judges, referees, and announcers must be able to easily identify robots by Team Number. Teams must display their Team Number in four locations at approximately 90-degree intervals around the side of the robot. The numerals must be at least 4 inches high, at least in ½ inch stroke width and in a contrasting color from its background. Team Numbers must be clearly visible from a distance of not less than 100 feet.
Didn’t plan for having the school/team name and/or logo on all four sides, as well… but we have room for the numbers. 
*Originally posted by Jnadke *
**You wouldn’t be having this problem if you had read the rules, no would ya? Hehe. **
maybe you should look at the inspection sheet they included.
HEHE.
*jeremy
I’m sure you can find a place to bolt a plate on
The inspection checklist in the manual was a copy of last year’s. Rule [rule=m7]M7[/rule] has always said that team numbers must be displayed on all 4 sides. It is a very easy mistake to make. I’m sorry that it had to happen to you.
You have all day on thursday to put team numbers on. looking at this picture, it shouldn’t be too hard to find a place to put them. just mount some more polycarb 
I’m sure there will be teams at your first event that would be willing to help you too. http://firstubergeeks.com/albums/2003robot/team_photo.sized.jpg
jnadke, that comment was uncalled for, he did read the manual, as the inspection sheet is included in the manual.
We will find some places. It is just going to be tricky. By the way thanks for the encouragement. It was just a shock when I first read it. Maybe there are more teams that will read this and understand they too need more numbers on their robot. I know that most of the robots in our area only have them on 2 sides. Also most pictures I have been seeing only have them on 2 sides.
Something else you can do is just cut out some aluminum or lexan and spraypaint it and then zip tie it to the chassis sides.
*Originally posted by Jeremy_Mc *
**maybe you should look at the inspection sheet they included.HEHE.
*jeremy **
I wasn’t trying to be mean or anything. I apollogize if I came out sounding rude. Displaying bad feelings in return, however, is not the answer.
It was mentioned from day one that the inspection sheet meant nothing, and that it would change. The rules would be used in matters where inspection sheets were wrong. It was mentioned that the inspection sheets were pending, and can/will be changed.
hmm all these ideas sound good
i didn’t mean my post that spiteful…more or less of a rebuttle. usually giving one a taste of their own medicine makes them realize its sting.
*jeremy
As Jnadke said, the inspection checklist has never been part of the official rules. If you take a look at the top, it clearly said “SAMPLE” in large, all-caps letters with a big attention-drawing box around them. Yes, they probably should have kept the year 2002 on it instead of saying 2003, but I suppose they thought that would have only confused things even more.
Anyways, I’m sure you guys can find a place to put your number as just about any (semi)flat surface will suffice. Just slap some 1/16" polycarb on the front and back (which you should probably do anyways to avoid damage) and everything should be OK.
Everysince i saw the arms that came out with their number on it i thought it was a bad idea…
Just think, when the arms are out, you will have 3 numbers on the front, and 1 number on the back…
Everysince i saw the arms that came out with their number on it i thought it was a bad idea…
Just think, when the arms are out, you will have 3 numbers on the front, and 1 number on the back…
Theres an easy fix for this problem. At a local craft store or somthing like that, you can buy sheets of this special sticky paper. It comes in basically any colo, and it is all metallic and shiny. Then, just cut #'s out and peel off the backing, and presto! instant team #'s. Just put a set of these under your arms so when they deploy, there are still #'s on the side.
We always use this paper, they sell it a one of the Ohio State bookstores, andit is definatly visible from a distance. It also reflects light like no ones business, so be careful in the sun :yikes:
Come on now. All they have to be is 4’ high by 1’ wide (each number). If your frame has a structual support that is 1" wide put and is high enough put it there. Or you can just print it black on white, laminate it, and tiewrap it on.
Here is a wide one 4 digits full size
Try printing this at 400% it’s current size
And here is a high one. Agian print at 400% and rotate 90 degrees after print (or before, it’s your choice.)
If you look they aren’t all that big when you blow them up and print them.
FINE. I’ll tell you how to do it. Now, the rules clearly say, 4 sides at 90 degree intervals. Granted that your robot has at least 6 sides and you’ve got numbers on two sides, then the rules has an easy loophole. Just put one number on the top of your robot and one at the bottom. They are seperated by 90 degrees, are on 4 seperate sides, and your ROBOT is still easily identified by the referee as they should be able to easily see the number on the sides/top. The bottom one just allows you to get around the rules. Or if you have space, put one on the back and use the one on top as the loophole. That’s a better method.
M7:
Robots must display their team number, sponsor and school names and/or logos. The judges, referees, and announcers must be able to easily identify robots by Team Number. Teams must display their Team Number in four locations at approximately 90-degree intervals around the side of the robot. The numerals must be at least 4 inches high, at least in ½ inch stroke width and in a contrasting color from its background. Team Numbers must be clearly visible from a distance of not less than 100 feet.
I think the rule is clear…
M7:
Robots must display their team number, sponsor and school names and/or logos. The judges, referees, and announcers must be able to easily identify robots by Team Number. Teams must display their Team Number in four locations at approximately 90-degree intervals around the side of the robot. The numerals must be at least 4 inches high, at least in ½ inch stroke width and in a contrasting color from its background. Team Numbers must be clearly visible from a distance of not less than 100 feet.
side ( P ) Pronunciation Key (sd)
n.
1 Mathematics.
A line bounding a plane figure.
A surface bounding a solid figure.
2 A surface of an object, especially a surface joining a top and bottom: the four sides of a box.
After def 2, they don’t relate to an object. But as you can see, the top is a side, and so is the bottom; side is just a surface. Don’t they teach you this in your first geometry class?
If one were to take the rules completely literally, ‘around the side’ would mean we’d have to wrap the numbers around the side. But clearly that’s not the case. Putting a number on top or bottom is still within the rules. The ref may yell at you but there’s jack that he/she can do.
they have to be visible for atlesat 100 ft.
if they’re on the bottom, they are not visible.
*jeremy
The bottom one will easily be seen if the robot flips over as did in the UTC match 8 video But the judges can’t penalize you there. The numbers are visible from 100 feet away. Whether at all times is a different issue. Basically, for teams who can’t get their numbers on all side, the top is a good side to use and the bottom is a last resort. I’m just trying to help those people who didn’t read all the rules carefully.
