i was also wondering how many of you like rap music, i dont hate it, but i am not a huge fan of it.
I definitly am a huge fan of rap/hip-hop or whateverā¦its good dancing musicā¦its upbeatā¦sometimes the lyrics might be a little vulgarā¦but who doesnāt like that sometimes! I like itā¦its good!
rap poisons the mind. Any rap, all rap, even pop rap, is noise, and needs to be wiped from the planet like a disease.
Lyrics are horrible, it perpetuates the whole āganstaā nonsense, and generally does nothing to enrich the lives or spirits of its listeners.
I hate rap, enough said.
Thatās what they said in the 50ās and 60ās about rock and roll 
While Iām not a fan of rap, some can be ok, and not all rap has bad messages (although most does).
Canāt spell crap without rap.
'nuff said.
Thank you Ben, you said everything i wanted to say. As for the vulgar lyrics, i want nothing of them, i am one person who doesnt like that ever. Rap is not Hip-Hop just like pop-punk is not punk. I really have no problem with Hip-Hop, it is definitely an art form that takes a lot of talent to do well, Saul Williams and Jurrassic 5 are a couple artists that do it well. Rap, like ben said, is full of vulgar, explicitly sexual lyrics that do nothing to uplift. Would you turn the radio down or off if your Grandma walked into your room while you were listening to rap? Unless you have no care as to what your Grandma thinks of you, i think you would.
hmmā¦
rap+music=undefined
therefore mayb if rap was = to music i could like it but until there is musicā¦im outā¦
Rap is fast talking pop
OKā¦ nowā¦ givenā¦ I donāt like rapā¦ but i wonāt judge it or anyone else who likes itā¦ its not my place nor anyone elses to judgeā¦ if ya like it, great, more power to yaā¦ if notā¦ thats good tooā¦ some rap is funnyā¦ downright hilariousā¦ i just hate the violent schtuffā¦ Punk is betterā¦ its not all about Anarchy and hating the governmentā¦ while that stuff exists (and is pretty dang good) theres happy, feel better, love your neighbor, weāre all friends punkā¦ (and they havnāt even sold outā¦ ) yayā¦ techno rox tooā¦ great to dance with chicks toā¦ okā¦ i know iāve been off-topic most of the timeā¦ but let people have what they likeā¦ and you take your stuffā¦
*Originally posted by Quain *
**OKā¦ nowā¦ givenā¦ I donāt like rapā¦ but i wonāt judge it or anyone else who likes itā¦ its not my place nor anyone elses to judgeā¦ if ya like it, great, more power to yaā¦ if notā¦ thats good tooā¦ some rap is funnyā¦ downright hilariousā¦ i just hate the violent schtuffā¦ Punk is betterā¦ its not all about Anarchy and hating the governmentā¦ while that stuff exists (and is pretty dang good) theres happy, feel better, love your neighbor, weāre all friends punkā¦ (and they havnāt even sold outā¦ ) yayā¦ techno rox tooā¦ great to dance with chicks toā¦ okā¦ i know iāve been off-topic most of the timeā¦ but let people have what they likeā¦ and you take your stuffā¦ **
thanks, you saved me a lot of typingā¦
Rap is not music. To be music, it has to be played instrumentally. I respect rap as an art form, but itās not music. Not a fan. Give me oldies anyday!
does that mean that Techno isnāt music because its ānot played instrumentally?ā Orā¦ some of the pop coming out now is done with synthās and digi-keyboards and shizā¦ Alsoā¦ if you watched MTV back in the day, they did a Unplugged with LL Cool Jā¦ instuments were there and it worked outā¦ Sigh i canāt believe iām defending rap
Just give me that some of that ole time Rock n Roll. John Mellencamp, KISS, Chicago, Boston. Iāll even listen to the Village People before I would consider listening to that rap crap. Most rap you canāt understand the āso calledā lyrics anyways.
Long Live Rock nā Roll
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Wayne Doenges
Donāt forget Iron Maidenā¦ grin us young kids still know the classicsā¦ Quiet Riot anyone?
You canāt forget the music movement of the early 90s
Nirvana, Alice in Chains, ect
Good olā Nirvana! heheā¦ I personally canāt stand rap at all. I think it perpetuates a negative vibe and image, not to say that negative music isnāt good- I like the dark depressing rockā¦ but it isnāt music as we have already establishedā¦ Now I know that this is going to make major waves, but we actually touched on this at my lunch table today in this very odd, long and involved conversationā¦ Some of us came to generalized conclusion(Iām saying generalized so i donāt step on too many toes, i know there are exceptionsā¦)
When a white person makes fun of/ discriminates against/ bad mouths a black person, itās racismā¦ when a black person does the same to a white, itās rap.
We all know that half - or more, of the things major rap artists say are completely out of line. And we realized at lunch today(this part wasnt even close to the original debate) that a lot of rap makes racist comments to whites, after all, contrary to popular belief, racism works both ways. I have a big beef (funny term considering I dont eat red meat) with discrimination and all that. I hate how everyone uses their differences to cause problems, like in the Middle East. I donāt understand how people canāt say, k, this is what Iām about, this is what youāre about, and there is no reason why we have to agree.
Okā¦ wow, thatās a lot of typingā¦ ummā¦ Iām done for nowā¦
hugz to all as alwayz
Ann-Marie -team 783
PS. Iām sorry if Iāve offenedā¦ well, ā¦ everyone. Really sorry, had to say itā¦ K, Iām really done now, i swearā¦
I would say that rap music is not so harmful or racist towards white people as often as it is harmful to the race that creates it. I have no problem with black people in general. But, I do have a problem with black people who discriminate against themselves. The blacks worked so very hard during the 60ās to gain respect for themselves. What I see now is kids that walk around my school with the gangsta mentality dispite the fact that they live in a middle class society. They live in $250000 houses, their parents are succesful businessmen, theyāve been given all the opportunity in the world, and they have thrown it in the garbage. The people that worked so hard to gain everybodyās respect, the people who were sprayed with fire hoses, the people who were beaten by the police, the people whom I deeply respect died so their children and their childrenās children would have respect and opportunity have been thwarted forty years later by the people they were trying to help. Itās something that upsets me immensely.
just my $.02
I didnt vote on this poll. I donāt hate rap, and I can listen to it sometimes, but its not my preference. This is mainly because I am not a lyric based person. But I did want to contribute to thisā¦
I think a lot of people hear mainstream MTV type rap and pigeon-hole the whole genre. Just as many people do not consider Sum 41 and Blink 182 as punk bands because they are so overproduced and marketed, the same is for a lot of the mainstream rappers. Just because they are marketed as a great part of that genre doesnāt mean its giving that genre justice.
Also, I wanted to clear one thing upā¦ hip-hop is a culture, rap is the music that comes from that culture. Just like rave culture and electronica. No one calls electronic music āraveā music.
I will not debate over wether rap is music or not, but you cannot deny that when it is done correctlyā¦ keyword: correctlyā¦ it is art. Because if it isnāt art, then what is poetry?
People should really take the time to learn about things before they start to bash them. Even if you do not like something, you should at least respect it.
Oh and I should add. I have to agree with this:
*Originally posted by Scottie2Hottie *
** What I see now is kids that walk around my school with the gangsta mentality dispite the fact that they live in a middle class society. They live in $250000 houses, their parents are succesful businessmen, theyāve been given all the opportunity in the world, and they have thrown it in the garbage.
**
It really disappoints me when I see so many people get sucked into complacence because its popular culture. Iāve never understood the need to be the āthug-typeā myselfā¦ but its what is popular, and for the most part, kids do whatever they have to to get that popularityā¦
*Originally posted by Michael Murphy *
**Rap is not music. To be music, it has to be played instrumentally. I respect rap as an art form, but itās not music. Not a fan. Give me oldies anyday! **
I said I wasnāt going to defend rap being musicā¦ but what the heyā¦ I love intelligent debates.
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ALSOā¦ when people sing acapella, is it not music because they are not using instruments? At least you agree its an art form thoughā¦
I do respect the amount of skill it takes to rapā¦ I personally know I could not, however, I still hate what the ārap music cultureā if you will has done to society. Scottie made an awesome point about all the middle class kids getting all thugged out, I mean you walk around the halls of my school and you wonderā¦ whatās the pull? Why are people into wearing their pants so low that itās reminiscent of how convicts had their way over sized pants so they could not escape? Why would you want to be a gangsta? Itās odd and I donāt really understand. If youāre trying to go for the whole bad boy thing, there are other ways to do itā¦ which I find to look much betterā¦ but thatās just me. Whateva, I figure if you want to look like a convictā¦ thereās probably something wrongā¦ but what do I know? mehā¦
hugz to all as alwayz
Ann-Marie -team 783