My idea would to integrate the screens from drive stations into holo lens’s to make the equipment lighter and provide data easier. The holo lens qualify for the safety rankings if I am right and are used industrially
You’ll likely run into the “non-powered” part of the rules if you are using the HoloLens as eye protection.
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There was a sort of pilot program in 2017 where some of the NASA house teams (us, 118 and a few others iirc) were issued headsets, but First was unwilling to make sufficient accommodations so they could be actually used, which rendered the whole thing a joke.
Well, like, a joke beyond the other issues with HoloLens in general.
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could putting saftey glasses under the holo lens say that the lens are used as devices used for tracking
Counter to this, looking into using nreal air for something similar to this, it is part of the “Operator Console” we got away with bringing extra computers no reason this would be any different it is a “screen” that happens to be attached to your face.
You could perhaps say it is part of the OPERATOR CONSOLE as long as you keep in mind the following rules about it:
I would not think you’d be allowed to use it as the only display as it would not be clearly visible in a match by anyone besides the wearer.
I’m not sure if you can communicate with the HoloLens over a wired connection. Maybe you can.
If your extra computers were not wired into the OPERATOR CONSOLE and didn’t fall into any of the other categories, you got away with a rule violation. As for the Nreal Air, you still have to wear safety glasses under them and they would have to be wired into the OPERATOR CONSOLE. Same as with the HoloLens, you would not be allowed to wear them before the teleop begins, so they cannot be used as safety glasses.
I’ve always thought this was cool but H401 and H402 get in the way. You either have to plug your headset into your laptop after auto ends or put on the headset after auto ends.
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Wired we were very careful about it, wired over ethernet with some port forwarding fun to get our drivestations working across multiple devices without connecting two devices to the FMS
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I’ll argue that. There is nothing saying that the display needs to be visible to any particular person, just that the display can be clearly seen.
Now, utility-wise? Yeah, pretty useless. And I’d argue on intent that you’re correct. But sometimes spirit and letter don’t match up…
Well for field connection issues, I’d recommend making it as easy as possible for FTAs to help you, which means having an actual laptop screen.
I do think headsets can be really useful. Some examples:
Pure HUD (no tracking):
- Overlaying diagnostic info.
- Overlaying vision data
With head tracking:
- For 2017 style field obstacles, you can have a virtual ghost robot that’s overlaid in place
- For this year, you can have a virtual robot translated to the nodes right in front of you so you can pretend to be placing near you while the robot is far away.
- For 2019, virtual ghost robot.
And always, its riskier but a full VR headset showing the robot in a virtual field with its pose and location shown based off of sensors and full field odometry. You can drive from a GTA style view. Nothing is ever obstructed.
You’re right that the wording doesn’t say that specifically. And I prefaced it with “I would not think you’d be allowed” to more refer to that you’re going to get grief from volunteers. Though I would argue that since you can’t wear it during auto, and therefore cannot see it clearly, you would be violating the “clearly seen…in a MATCH.” I will admit though that the rules don’t explicitly say that the screen has to be visible during the entire match, so maybe just being able to see it during teleop is still within the rules.
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We actually did this without a AR display but our laptops rendered the bot during the match and was used by drivers for pickup, scoring, & with fake cameras simulated where they needed when needed.
I remember years back, a team telling me how they set up a google glass to work with the drive team. Tho I don’t remember if they had it on field during actual competitions.
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