how else would we do it
Scout drive team heights, obviously.
Last season we experimented with a custom from scratch Microsoft PowerApps app that pushed data to a SharePoint list. This allowed us to use whatever phone the students had to enter data (via cellular connection).
For years our teams go-to method was paper & pencil. We tried making a scouting app or some form of online document to make things easier but neither happened due to time constrains and lack of members. Eventually our team got smaller and smaller to the point where it was only one person scouting and the rest being on the drive team. Now this year the team got a wave of new kids so hopefully the scouting system gets a massive overhaul and finally incorporates some online scouting.
5090 Scouts with ipads and QR codes. And we make our own app. We talked about switching to bluetooth this year, but the QR codes work so well that there’s is need to fix what’s not broke.
We are using an image sensing application one of our team members made over the off-season. All we do is print out a form that students bubble in and it scans the paper and comes out with game data. The sheets can be printed and changed on the fly. We also plan on using it for pit scouting, and integrating that data into a profile for each robot.
My old team used amazon fire kindle and something similar to open office on each device. Then using an OTG adapter transfer the files to flash drive then to a laptop with tableau to aggregate the data!
Something I was thinking about was setting up either a 3G/4G booster for everyone on my team so they could connect to the internet or set up a local 4g network to use instead of WiFi
Team 5730 has been using paper and pencil sheets. We usually have multiple categories, during our 2015 (going off the top of my head), such as: If they crossed the line, auto shots (how many missed or got in), where they shot during auto, what kind of bot they were, if they specialized in anything like gears or shooting, and other sections like that. Hope this helped!
Team 195 used to use a paper/pencil system years ago, but we now use a digital system. This year we are transitioning over from Access to Android App Builder in Java. We connect all our tablets and have them synchronize every few matches to gather data. After the first day of the comp, we have Midnight Meetings that are used to discuss data and find good alliance partners.
How do you synchronize the tablets? Do you use an app?
2614 uses a custom webapp to send match data to a google sheet for analysis. Form is used by cell phones mainly, and if we want to analyze on the bigger screen of a computer, we use a wired cell hotspot(which is in compliance with rules as it doesn’t broadcast). For more reference, our full 2018 documentation is here
We hardwire the entire system, (makes for a messy stand situation but we deal) and upload on to one admin computer.
Team 1625 has almost always gone with paper scouting and using excel combined with tableau to interpret data, but this year i found Alex Bay’s CD post showing off his prototype app for the 2019 game wich transmits data to the computer by qr stream. Depending on how well it turns out i plan on using it this year instead of paper and pen.
Link to Alex’s post\thread:
First Match Scouting System for 2019?
I just manual text and single qr code options as well for other options in transferring data.
Honestly my team has 30 kids total and 4 scouters, so its a wild road of Coca Cola, pen and paper, and excel
Our team uses FRC Krawler, and it’s great, especially if you have six scouts (one scout per team in the match), although we usually end up with three-ish. You can customise what data you want to collect, and it’s easy to analyse the data once its exported to a spreadsheet
236 goes low tech on the front end and high tech on the back end. We employ simple (paper) scouting sheets that are both easy to fill out and easy to transcribe, and we collect only the truly relevant team-specific scouting data that we need to make decisions - admittedly, almost everything. We also pull FRC data real-time using python scripts calling on First’s API services - scheduling info, full match data, ranking data, and published stats (OPR, DPR, CCWM) - all via a cellular data connection. Depending on the year, some of these data get merged/manipulated - typically in MS Access - to provide additional key info and granularity that scouts may have missed (e.g. for Power-Up, did they complete a “cross-court” auto or how often did they score on the scale or the switch when it was lit on their side of the field?). All these data are then brought into Spotfire DXP (similar to Tableau) for data visualization and analyses. We plot all sorts of stuff…starting positions, specific actions, defensive skills, fouls caused, human player evaluations, trends over time, alliance strength evaluations for context, and more, and we do our best to identify the under-ranked teams that bring key complementary skill sets to potential alliances (should we only be fortunate enough to form one…).
We have tried scouting electronically on phones and tablets but we (presently, still) prefer paper over silicone. As long as the sheets are fool-proof and simple you can collect a rich and accurate data set to chew on. IMO, the main advantages of paper are a) you always have a hard copy backup; and most importantly b) it helps keep scouts’ eyes on the field. Flipping, swiping, clicking, and poking at a device can be distracting, even for the generation that grew up with them, but just about anyone can hit check boxes and make tick marks on a sheet of paper w/minimal effort and frequently w/o even looking. The only drawback (IMO) is that someone has to transcribe the data into Excel, and quickly, but with well designed sheets we’ve been able to keep up with ongoing matches with just one person doing the transcribing (of all 6 teams’ actions per match). Granted, that takes practice but any decent typist can do it.
We just use USB connection. It is fast and doesn’t require any hotspot or otherwise connection dependent download. It really helps at venues with poor cellular.
Interesting, do you mind explaining a bit more about how you use USB connection?
Of course. We use ipads for our scouting. When a scouter submits their data, our app creates a QR code as an image in the photos. Then all we have to do is use a charging cable and plug it into our laptop where all our data can be compiled in one place.