How can scouters see if a power cell goes to Outer\Inner Port

[Lidor51]

Assuming that I don’t want to dedicate scouters behind each Power Port,
you don’t have a very clear sight line to see to where the balls goes to.

Anyone had a suggestion how (without adding more scouters) the scouters can see that?

*After We’ll attend our first event, I might understand that in a specific seating location it wouldn’t be a problem at all… but I’m trying to see if I can figure it out before the event.

[Squirrel2412]

There have been two threads posted about this already:

Scouting/Collecting Data of the 3 point Inner Goal

Usually, a team’s ideal scouting spot is the center of the field. We have realized that teams cannot accurately scout whether the balls go into the inner goal or the outer goal, and better teams may have slower cycles because they are consistently making the 3pt shot-- which subjectively is better. One solution is to position 2 superscouts to run back and forth, however, they’d only get 2/6 robots, or overlook the smaller teams who may have improved over build. How are you guys dealing with thi…

Sight Lines in 2020 - Inner vs Outer Port

How are your scouts planning on differentiating inner port shots vs outer port shots? To my knowledge, the FMS will give data for an alliance’s inner/outer shots, but I haven’t heard of anything to tell between multiple teams shooting at the two high goals in the same match.

[AmericanAce]

You can either move to the side the robot you’re scouting will shoot into, or you can look at the score, and see how many points are added. Checking the scoreboard requires more attention, because there’s more than one robot contributing, but both are viable options for scouting.

[Lidor51]

As you said, points on scoreboards can updated from different points simultaneously (and also require the scouter to move his eyes from the robot he scouts).

Thanks @Squirrel2412,
I don’t like the sitting spots suggested in those threads (altough they might solve one problem, they might create a few others). Hope to find a different solution.

Scouting/Collecting Data of the 3 point Inner Goal

Got asked on discord about sightlines, and im not liking the angles you have to be at to see into the inner port. The green cube indicates where you will be able to see the ball going in relative to that spot. Frankly, the angle is too sharp to scout regular match play from there effectively. [AngleTest2] The obvious option then would be to watch it as it exited from the inner port and down the tube where it gets counted. Looking at the NASA Field photos though, its somewhat hard at a glance…

[Billfred]

@Lidor51

Thanks @Squirrel2412,
I don’t like the sitting spots suggested in those threads (altough they might solve one problem, they might create a few others). Hope to find a different solution.

Nothing wrong with finding a different solution…but in the name of thread hygeine, let’s find that solution in one of the two existing threads.