How many teams in 2005?

2nd-year teams, especialy non-school ones, probably won’t get in early. I’m on one.

I bet it will be just over a 1000 teams, maybe 1100 tops. The $500 deposit is probably keeping some financially strapped teams from signing up immediately. I bet the second/third round of sign-ups will vastly show the difference between the teams with and without $$. Those with $$ in their coffers will sign up ASAP.

i wanna say 1126 with the highest number at 1773

Unlike all of you pecifist’s i’m going to say 1300 a fair increase from last year. And about those people who are saying that there are going to be alot of teams folding this year I have one thing to say to you. Last week my team was going to be one of those teams that was going to be folding but due to my tierless efforts in the last month we have almost everything we need to compete (minus the robot of course) and anything we don’t have I know we will eventualy get (Like the Robot). I beleive that there is a person like me on every team out there that is threatening to fold and they will do whatever it takes to make sure their team doesn’t fold.

Just had to get that out I just found out 2 hours ago that my team wasn’t going to fold. Hope to see you all in Atlanta!!

I believe the $500 deposit is not for the first sign-up. Just for the subsequent regional sign-ups.

Each teams’ first payment is due at the same time. $6000 on Dec. 3.

Looks like new team registration has really slowed. There are about 640 teams on Oct. 13. With the second event open deadline approaching (28 October), it will be interesting to see how many regionals fill up (and therefore limit more new teams showing up).

OK. It needs to be asked.
Where’s the BBS?

Looks like we’re almost up to 700 teams on 10/18

733 - 35 (CMP) - 1(generico) = 697

Is there a list of all the retired team numbers? Also, what is the link for the list of teams signed up? I think that the highest rookie number this year will be 1624…random, but who knows?

(Checked USFIRST on Oct 19th; 7:56 pm East Coast Time)
753 teams total. It’s slowing down, but I expect that its just a lull and will pick up. Congratulations to team 1568 for being the newest member of the FIRST community this year and I hope I see you guys at Nationals (lots of newer teams have some unusually creative solutions to the game)!
After reading the list, has anyone else noticed double-registrations? I can understand a 2 team school maybe, but two identical registrations with the same team number…just a glitch? (And the Israel regional went from 14 teams of a 14 team capacity to a 0 of 0 and you get an error when you search it now…).
By the way, the double-registered teams (I saw) are 47, 53, 71, 103, 116, 120, 126, 148, 151, 175, 190, 191, 241, 401, 451, 499, 616, 812, 829, 843, 972, 1022, 1083, 1104, 1137, 1208, 1216. Are these teams that are signed up for more than one regional and it lists you twice (or three times, etc…), there seems to be a lot of teams for it to be just a random database error.

 Michael "The Crate Guy" Greenley, Team 341

P.S. From what I hear, in it’s infancy, FIRST allowed teams to change numbers, so certain retired teams have their number in use; I do not think that a list of retired teams is redily available, and you would need to know which teams changed numbers to know which are retired, which are changed and retired and which changed from a number to another leaving a “hole”. (Number-changing has since been disallowed).

I think the double registered teams are teams that have registered for the championship.

omutton asked for retired team numbers, not actual teams. The retired numbers are all the numbers not being used up to the new teams. This is because since 1999 or 2000, the teams have all been consecutively numbered. But a question I have is if a team wants to take a year off…to gain funds and what not, can they register the following year with their original team number or do they have to get a new number?

As far as I know, yes, a returning team would keep its number. And any other status, such as being a 1992 team, Chairman’s, etc. (The 1992 team thing is from WildStang, which took 1993 off if memory serves me right.)

30, 35, 70, 97, 102, 104, 118, 140, 167, 203, 235, 249, 253, 256, 258, 259, 276, 311, 321, 322, 373, 374, 391, 398, 410, 434, 441, 442, 443, 444, 446, 448, 449, 480, 492, 507, 535, 550, 569, 570, 581, 588, 598, 605, 606, 611, 634, 642, 644, 649, 651, 653, 660, 665, 668, 670, 675, 692, 695, 698, 704, 713, 752, 758, 762, 764, 765, 769, 770, 772, 773, 780, 781, 782, 824, 825, 827, 831, 834, 852, 861, 866, 875, 878, 879, 880, 883, 884, 888, 898, 902, 906, 908, 912, 913, 919, 931, 933, 937, 938, 940, 942, 943, 948, 953, 954, 959, 964, 966, 968, 970, 973, 979, 982, 992, 997, 998, 1005, 1010, 1011, 1017, 1030, 1034, 1035, 1036, 1040, 1043, 1045, 1046, 1049, 1055, 1056, 1058, 1059, 1064, 1067, 1072, 1075, 1081, 1082, 1088, 1098, 1100, 1106, 1109, 1113, 1115, 1120, 1122, 1125, 1131, 1133, 1136, 1141, 1144, 1147, 1148, 1151, 1152, 1158, 1164, 1165, 1166, 1169, 1182, 1185, 1187, 1191, 1201, 1204, 1206, 1210, 1214, 1215, 1221, 1224, 1225, 1227, 1228, 1229, 1232, 1239, 1248, 1255, 1259, 1260, 1263, 1274, 1281, 1287, 1290, 1292, 1294, 1295, 1296, 1297, 1298, 1299, 1300, 1308, 1309, 1311, 1312, 1315, 1324, 1325, 1329, 1331, 1332, 1334, 1338, 1339, 1342, 1343, 1347, 1352, 1356, 1361, 1364, 1365, 1368, 1380, 1387, 1391, 1393, 1395, 1401, 1406, 1409, 1411, 1412, 1416, 1419, 1420, 1425, 1426, 1427, 1428, 1429, 1430, 1432, 1433, 1437, 1439, 1441, 1442, 1448, 1453, 1455, 1456, 1459, 1461, 1463, 1464, 1465, 1466, 1467, 1470, 1472, 1475, 1476, 1477, 1478, 1479, 1481, 1482, 1484, 1485, 1489, 1490, 1492, 1495, 1496, 1497

Wow - That’s a lot of teams that Raised the Bar, but haven’t signed up to participate this year.

435 isn’t registered for anything?

Hope everything’s alright up there–it’d be a shame for the National Champions to be unable to defend their title!

My mistake. I went through the whole list, just to make sure no one was on there that shouldn’t have been.

OK maybe i can help many of you out and inform you as to why many teams show up as double and soon maybe triple on the FIRST “database”](http://www.usfirst.org/frc/map/FMPro?-db=team%20events.fp5&-lay=web&-format=team_list.htm&event=&event%20year=2005&status=registered&-sortfield=team%20id&-max=all&-find) here. What really is happening is the web address that you are linking through is called a query. What that is, is a string of commands for a database that is accessing the information you are seeking in the query. Well as it appears, this query that people keep referring to is really asking to “show all teams registered at any and all events”. Thus meaning if a team is registered at more then one event, they will appear for each event. So you will continue to have multiple teams show up multiple times as they register for more events, and as the 28th of October comes up when second regional registration opens, this database will more or less just be cluttered.

yeh, unfortunatly we havn’t been able to contact them…
we are actually based in cambridge, which is about 40 miles from london (about an hour by train or car) so it would be nice to tlak to them or to mentor or help them in any way we could

we aren’t signed up yet but we will be we are making some final organization with the team because about 90% of the team this year are freshmen but we will be signed up don’t know for which comps though but we are trying to go to 2 regionals and nats “that’s if we have the money for all that”

Early on, teams got their numbers for that year in the order they registered in. In 1999, teams were listed alphabeticaly by sponser and given a number. Those numbers have remained since, with new teams being added at the end as they registered. Teams that have droped out are not reused, but the name stays with the school, for the most part. FIRST will work with a team that is reforming at a former school if they want to reclaim their team number.

For example, team 73 has come back after a year or two of not competing, but they still have their old team number.

Wetzel