I am well aware that FIRST emphaises everybody is a winner, But my team has lost to the Mauraders in the semi finals of ( I think) Every competition that both of us have attended. I was just wondering is there any way to beat them or simply just push them. In no way am I dissing the Mauraders they have a truly excellent robot, But does any body know how to beat them.
i think you guys have an amazing robot and i feel really bad we’ve kicked you out of the semifinals several times, you deserved to be in those final matches as much as we did…i hope to play w/ you and not against you in the competitions coming up…
“all your off season comp are belong to us”
you guys did have an awesome robot, maybe even better than ours. except i noticed away to greatly improve your pulling power. send me an e-mail at [email protected] and i will tell you more about it. sorry about beating you those 3 times, but you guys are great. you congradulated us each time and were still happy. you didn’t seem pissed off at all, i know we would have been very angry if the same team beat us 3 times. we had to face 190 3 times in the qualifying matches at mayhem and lost all 3 times.
team 151 is the epitome of gracious professionalism.
Beat us? I think you can beat us! I’m surprised you haven’t! but what can I say that my other cohorts haven’t already said. You guys always seem happy to be beaten by us! Strategy. Thats all there is. Strategy. And a great team of drivers! and Dunkin Donuts has seemed to power us at times. hmm what else…
You guys rule I hope that we can be partners in the Next summer comp. You guys are going to Battle cry right? See you there:D
no matter how awesome the team there’s always a weakness <wink wink>
if you cant find it in the robot, look to strategy
yeah, 271’s weakness, at least for SBPLI, was just to reach in and claw out their pnematics system. 
luckily for them, they fixed that little problem :p.
*Originally posted by Ian W. *
**yeah, 271’s weakness, at least for SBPLI, was just to reach in and claw out their pnematics system.luckily for them, they fixed that little problem :p. **
that wasn’t funny :(. anyway, we fixed that problem and added some extra protection to all the pneumatics and electronics 
hey 271,
you guys deserve the biggest congrats for beating us in every comp we have gone too, but like you said in an earlier reply, its all about da strategy. at mayhem we had a driver who was experienced, he was cocky, and made a mistake, everybody makes mistakes. i still think that if 190 hadn’t broken its arm off, then i believe that we could have prevented you from stealing our goals and eventually winning mayhem. but hey all power to you for winning, i just hope we don’t have to face u guys in the qf’s or sf’s, but have a great time and kick some more robo-butt, i hope this post doesnt sound offensive, i am not degrading anybody, just giving my two cents worth:)
badjokeguy
sorry. your robot was a good design though, and you managed to fix that problem quickly. i just wish there was a better way to show sarcasm online…
*Originally posted by Ian W. *
**i just wish there was a better way to show sarcasm online… **
You do it like this:
<SARCASM>The key to beating 271 from Bayshore is to get a bunch of angry peeps from West Islip and beat them down with sticks and stones (and the occasional robot )</SARCASM>
Ok so you want some strategy huh ok here we go I’ll break it down for you in intervals of thirty seconds.
2:00-1:30 remaining- Team 271 loads and gets balls from the human player it’s there design it’s what they do LIVE WITH IT!!!
1:30-1:00 remaining- Team 271 looks for a goal this is when the capabilities of their alliance partner comes in if their a goal handling robot you need to deny them a goal if their a goal grabbing robot you need to battle and waste the oppositions time while you control two goals. The more time you waste the less balls they put in. If your robot posesses power like oh say Team 88 who puts robots on their sides in pushing contests then go ahead for a steal. Proceed to do this for the remaining minute then with less then thirty seconds you need to make a judgement call on whether to hang with the goal and push it out of the zone or run back to the endzone although I think 151 you have a tether so it doesn’t really matter. Also 151 your a good two goal grabber and I really don’t understand why sometimes you play defense you need to lead your alliance I think offensively and insure your alliance two goals. Let your alliance partner play defense for you and then you will be all set. Just remember Saturday what I told you and you can pay me back during the draft.
I’m sorry 271 but strategy is strategy.
*Originally posted by Todd Derbyshire *
If your robot posesses power like oh say Team 88 who puts robots on their sides in pushing contests then …
in case you didn’t see at mayhem, we pulled 190 up on their side too, we were pulling, you were pushing. that was teamwork. and at that time we were only running on 1/2 power. we are completely rebuilding our drive system for battle cry so we will always be operating with 100% power. it will be bullet proof! we just gotta pull a few more all-nighters and it will be done…
all right I wasn’t at Mayhem but from what I see on tape what you did was in the aftermath of what we did and if you like you can sample your power against us saturday ok simple as that we have been doing it all season.
*Originally posted by Todd Derbyshire *
**all right I wasn’t at Mayhem but from what I see on tape what you did was in the aftermath of what we did and if you like you can sample your power against us saturday ok simple as that we have been doing it all season. **
<sacasm> Bring it on!! we’re ready to KATN! w/ gracious professionalism…
We are the best and we own j00 we will wreck all at BattleCry`:o 
Ok everyone, this is pretty simple. The max points that team 271 can get not counting thier partner is 30 (10 balls, 2 goals, or 10 balls 1 goal, and i think they have a tongue for 10 more). So all you have to do to beat them is get 1 goal, and 21 balls for a score of 31. We beat them many many times before mayham and then they figured out that they could not do their strategy anymore because the points were not high enough and they attacked us. Thats how they beat us those two times and we give them props for that. But otherwise if they stick to their strategy it isnt that difficult to score more points than them.
As for 88, we have beat them quite a few times but I must say that they have put up a fight a few times. They are easier to beat because they only grab one goal leaving two other goals free usually so it is not that hard.
We will see who puts the best strategy together at WPI
I am still hoping our new drivers can pull this win off with the little amount of practice and experience they have had but I will be praying.
Also I think its crazy that teams are working so hard on their robots. We are basically doing system checks on it once a week. We have not changed anything on it because we like her the way she is.
Ok you gave me a shot 121 so I’ll give it to you back. 121 is not invincible and actually ask them about UTC we beat you then in the qualification rounds (unfortunately we didn’t have the strategy to take you out in the finals) and WPI with all the talent we will beat you again. The key is you need to playDEFENSE outscoring is not going to happen unless your 95 or some other good ball bot. Now if you posess power just let them fill the goal and take it away from them for some ungodly reason they like to run up the score so they entrust their goal to whoever their alliance partner is. Take the goal you win as now 121 will be scrambling to find a goal to put balls in.
AS for Elimination Rounds go I can’t give all my strategy after all you will see it Saturday and if it all works their will be no triple crown unless where within their alliance.
*Originally posted by Todd Derbyshire *
**Ok you gave me a shot 121 so I’ll give it to you back. 121 is not invincible and actually ask them about UTC we beat you then in the qualification rounds (unfortunately we didn’t have the strategy to take you out in the finals) and WPI with all the talent we will beat you again. The key is you need to playDEFENSE outscoring is not going to happen unless your 95 or some other good ball bot. Now if you posess power just let them fill the goal and take it away from them for some ungodly reason they like to run up the score so they entrust their goal to whoever their alliance partner is. Take the goal you win as now 121 will be scrambling to find a goal to put balls in.
AS for Elimination Rounds go I can’t give all my strategy after all you will see it Saturday and if it all works their will be no triple crown unless where within their alliance. **
Just for Clarification, the reason we lost that round in UTC is because we accidentally put our agitator bar backwards, and therefor couldn’t dump.
And in Rally in the Valley the reason you were barley able to push us a zone and a half is because you had the dirty birds were helping you, and we had a battery that was kind of low.
Plus we know 88’s strategy , they don’t have many options.
well, first off, we can get 40 points just by our selves, 2 goals, 10 balls and a tether. plus what ever our partner gets. i have to say that we probably work the best with a ball getter, like 121 and buzz. plus our strategy is always changing, sometimes we get 10 balls, sometimes we don’t, sometimes we only take a few balls. 1 or 2 goals? who knows? remember we’re .271, not 71, we have more than one stratagy.
121, what happened? i thought we were friends now. i know we didn’t get along too well at ralley in the valley (2/10’s of a point!) but i thought we made up at mayhem on the merrimac. i mean, we won each level of the finals in 2 matches. we never lost a match in the finals!. i think that our two robots work well together. i am looking forward to being allied together for at least a qualifying match, who knows, maybe even the finals again.