An alliance’s two human players are in the human player stations. Can they move from the human player station once they enter it? Does the third human player shuttle totes and litter to the other two human players? Can a human player move more than one tote or litter at the same time (i.e. could I grab all 10 litter at the same time and carry to the human player station)?
i do belive you can leave your station because the rules allow for the human player to become driver half way through a match, you can jus switch drivers at any time
You can seriously just switch drivers?
Which rule…? LOL
The closest one I could find talking about this is G32.
G32 During a MATCH, the ROBOT shall be operated solely by the DRIVERS and/or HUMAN PLAYERS of that Team.
The and part may mean that the Human Player could take control of the robot. I don’t see any use for it though.
Maybe for Kinect control? I am just guessing… But I think FIRST wants to leave opportunities open and see where teams take them.
We can use more controllers this year, so that might have something to do with it.
Actually in the rules it says no more kinect or webcam control. It’s rule G21
I believe the no kinect/webcam was just for auto to prevent the innovative ways people have gotten around the auto rules in the past.
Yeah I just wasn’t sure if we were talking whole match or auto.
True. G21 states:
During AUTO, DRIVE TEAMS must not directly or indirectly interact with ROBOTS or OPERATOR CONSOLES.
The note below it:
FIRST salutes the creative and innovative ways in which Teams have interacted with their ROBOTS during AUTO in previous seasons, making the AUTO period more of a hybrid period due to indirect interaction with the OPERATOR CONSOLE. The RECYCLE RUSH AUTO Period, however, is meant to be truly autonomous and ROBOT or OPERATOR CONSOLE interaction (such as through webcam or KinectTM) are prohibited.
However, R46 prohibits human players using IR remotes to control robots, similar to 2008.
One(1) D-Link Wireless Bridge (P/N: DAP-1522), hardware revision B, that has been configured with the appropriate encryption key for your team number at each event, is the only permitted device for communicating to and from the ROBOT during the MATCH.
Just remember, as per G5, “only one Alliance member may be in each Human Player Zone at a time.”
Why did you bring up IR remotes?
Because that was a legal way for human players to communicate with robots during the Hybrid Period of the 2008 game, *FIRST *Overdrive. It is not, however, legal this year.
It was the first thing that came to mind for an example, since they were legal in '08. I could have said R/C car remote, as well - same idea.
That’s an Auton rule
Interestingly enough, there’s a very specific rule on how you put totes in the chute. You cannot apply any sort of force to the tote, it has to slide, and also when putting it into the chute both hands must be on the chute. You cannot have one hand on the door area and one on the chute, you’ll get a foul.
Can you cite the rule for that?
I don’t see most of that in the rules… only this:
G6 A single ALLIANCE member may not be in contact with both a TOTE and the CHUTE DOOR simultaneously.
VIOLATION: FOUL.
Also, G5 prohibits more than one alliance member in each human player area, so that deals with the possibility of one person opening the chute door while another pushes the tote out the chute.
I can.
OK, I think I see what happened. The poster mixed up the words “chute” and “tote” in a couple places.
For example, you don’t have to have 2 hands on the chute. (Nor 2 hands on the tote for that matter.) And you can touch both the chute and the door at the same time.