Human player NOT forced to clear out processor?

In section 5.5 Processor, this is stated:

“To keep the PROCESSOR clear for scoring, the HUMAN PLAYER can shift scored ALGAE
on top of the PROCESSOR where there are designated ALGAE holders.”

The word “can” here is a bit vague, and this is not stated in any official rule section, rather in a description of the field.

Since the opposing alliance’s human player is in charge of keeping YOUR processor clear for scoring, wouldn’t it be advantageous for them to not move any algae that are processed, attempting to back-up the processor so the sensor can no longer score? The opponent can then just wait until the last few seconds of the game to clear out the algae and throw them into the net, effectively limiting the max number of algae their opponent can score through the processor during the game.

I can’t find any rule about whether or not this opponent human player is forced to pick up the algae out of processor, so I can only assume that this is a valid strategy, although it would only make sense if your opponent’s strategy is very processor-focused.

Can anyone find a rule or some wording that makes this more clear?

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It’s probably more advantageous to try to score in the net than not clear out the processor.

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This will probably be made illegal in a team update. Or a field volunteer will clear it for you like the AMP from 2024.

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Letting the opponent score in the processor though could net them 2 points, even if you make the net. It would not be advantageous. Additionally, later in the game it’s probably more likely algae bounce out of the net due to it nearly being full.

I’d like to add that you’re essentially creating a huge point deficit if you just leave them in there. You’re allowing the opposing team to just earn at least a dozen points by not clearing it.

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but if you (the HP) miss, they (the opponent) could process it again.

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I addressed a few different possible rules that could apply here:

https://www.chiefdelphi.com/t/reefscape-rule-questions/478346/120

Overall, I think it’s likely that the GDC will invalidate this strategy in some way, either by field personnel, G211, or G432.

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This is exactly what I was wondering. I don’t feel like it’s the intended purpose but I think the entire design of the processor is confusing for no reason when it could just be a 2 point score

I would like to see algae be forced to return to the field if more than allocated to be held is processed, much like 2020.

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I honestly think the processor might be more valuable than the net. But idk.

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I would think that that qualifies as non gp behavior so penalized

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Lets estimate that only 3 algae fit in the processer, and you(the human player), dont get rid of them. Thats net 18 points for the opposing allaince . If you do score in the net for all 9 times they could process the algae, thats still net 18 again.

It doesnt really matter whether you do or do not.

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exactly :wink:

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That’s only if it falls into the opposing side, it could just fall into your alliances side and you could process it.

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If you wanted to be non-GP, you keep the processor filled and un-scoreable until there are 20 seconds left, then have the human player score the algae in the processor.

I really really don’t think that will be legal

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That’s fair, it would depend on how you (the HP) misses the shot, but it doesn’t mean your opponent can’t retrieve the algae from your side if they have nothing better to do.

I don’t think this is an oversight by the GDC. In the past, there has been time limits to returning game pieces (2010) or limited number human players can hold onto before needing to return them (2020).

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Probably, the HP could also intentionally “accidentally” throw it into their alliances feild. (This isnt really a good strategy though, if you process the opoosing alliance could throw into their barge gaining them net 4 points rather than net 2)

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Agreed, I just can’t wait to see students “accidentally” try to intentionally throw a humongous rubber ball.

I might argue that this is interfering with automated scoring systems.

Which is very high on the list of things you Do Not Do.

It will be interesting to see if I’m right or wrong with that.

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