wow those are some incredibly sweet omi-wheels
Cory
hey, you guys already posted a teaser, didnāt you? I thought you were using tracks?
or both? that wouldnāt make much sense.
I could see the omniās as part of a turning system. They use the omniās to raise one end off the ground for tighter turning. Just my thought. Iām not sure why theyād be driven though.
*Originally posted by Beast314 *
**I could see the omniās as part of a turning system. They use the omniās to raise one end off the ground for tighter turning. Just my thought. Iām not sure why theyād be driven though. **
From where I am looking, it seems as though the treads will go down when they are on the ramp or in need of power, and the omni wheels elsewhere; the omnis seem ideal for the 15 second automode, hrmā¦
*Originally posted by Joel J. *
**From where I am looking, it seems as though the treads will go down when they are on the ramp or in need of power, and the omni wheels elsewhere; the omnis seem ideal for the 15 second automode, hrmā¦ **
their first teaser showed the treads to be bolted to the aluminiumā¦ so your idea would only work if the omniās came down- and whereās the space for that?
personally, i think either the omniās wonāt be on the robot, or theyāll be someplace else other than the main drivetrainā¦
They could be switchable with the tracks, depending on what they feel like using from match to match.
Cory
*Originally posted by Cory *
**They could be switchable with the tracks, depending on what they feel like using from match to match.Cory **
Except that, as best as I could see, their treads are directly driven off the gearboxes. There was no chain. So, the sprocket on the omniwheels becomes the anomaly.
Iād not be too surprised if they popped out of the bottom for easier turning. Itās a great system, still allows for two speeds, and is capable of doing other neat things, too, unrelated to drivetrain stuff.
*Originally posted by Andy Baker *
**Rob, you have a keen eye. Butā¦ if you look closely at the gearbox nearest to the camera, there is a spot for the F-P motor. We figure that by adding the F-P motor, it will give us about 18.62553% more power. So, weāve got that going for us, which is nice.Currently, we plan to use our F-P motors to spin the āsuper-duper-really-cool-shinny thingā at about 1,000 rpm, and everybody knows what that is going to do.
Soā¦ our big dilemma is how we are going to use these F-P motors. Do we go for more power or do we spin the āsuper-duper-really-cool-shinny thingā?
Andy B. **
Man, those super-duper-really-cool-shinny things look cool! Of course theyāre cool, because theyāre super-duper-really-cool-shinny things.
Iād go with the super-duper-really-cool-shinny thingsā¦ too much pushing power is overkill in this yearās game. It gives you more maneuverability tooā¦
Hmmā¦ the super-duper-really-cool-shinny things look like they have a diameter of 6" from the person holding them (looks like they are approximately 1 handspan, 5-6").
0.5ft * pi * 1000 RPM / 60s = 26 Feet per Second
Nice and fastā¦ but are you gonna have enough torque to accelerate your 'bot???
Personally, if you plan on stacking boxes, Iād mount the omniās perpendicular to the treadsā¦ so that you have a kind of āswerve driveā. This gives you 3 options. You can use the treads for maximum traction/pushing power. You can lower the omnis on the front and use the rear treads for a slow-moving powerful robot that turns nice. Or, you can lower both the back and front omniās for optimum turning and speed. Perfect for broad-siding your oponents, but you might want to protect your treads with 1/16" polycarb if you do this.
If you have trouble understanding what I mean by perpendicularā¦ mount the wheels so that they rotate toward the treads. The omnis on the right tread side of the robot would spin freely on the bearingsā¦ and the omnis on the left tread side would each be driven by a FP. The front and rear sets of omnis would be mounted on aluminum rods (2 per rod), so that you could engage either the front or back, or both. It would only require 2 cylinders thenā¦ The only problem I see, is will the omnis be able to turn the FPs when the treads want to turnā¦ Either that or you can have your programmer drive the FPās for omni-assisted turning.
There are many advantages of thisā¦ for example, stacking boxes would be easier. Pick one up, slide/swerve over to the stack, and drop it down. Second, it would be handy on the ramp to dodge speeding robotsā¦ hehe. The main advantage is robot automation. Drive your robot forward on treads until you lose the white tape, then swerve back over until you passed the tape twice, which puts you approx at the center of the ramp. Then tread up the ramp and show those boxes whoās boss.
LOL
I must be right that those are the super-duper-really-cool-shinny things Baker was talking about, because he didnāt say no
Too bad you guys havenāt seen their old robot, or you wouldāve know what these are for.
Back at 98 or 99, I am not sure which one (probably 99), they had a tread system, and they lower two wheels from the back to the ground so the treads only touch the ground in the front, and turn the system into a 4 wheel drive like system.
Which would make sense for this tread system, because with the high side friction, it make it easier to turn when they lower these omni wheels on the back.
Nice design. They look very familiar.
I donāt see these in your drive train. Are these what are inside those boxes at the ends of your wings?
Thatās for us to know, and you to lose sleep over finding out!