Last thirty second hang question

My team and I are curious if we are allowed to extend farther than 12 inches out in any direction in the end game. other years have allowed it in the climb zone but i cant find anything in the rules that say we can this year. we need to know to know if it is possible to lift other robots up with us. thanks in advance

The answer so far is no. We’ve interpreted it as there are no exceptions to the 12 inch perimeter rule. That’s not saying you can’t have a buddy climb, but the bar is definitely long enough for three robots to climb simultaneously.

The simple answer is no. However, it may still be possible to buddy climb, particularly by having a bar on the side of your robot, preferably high up so your buddies have enough room to actually get off the ground.

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ok also i had one more question and thats about where we can climb. We wanted to climb in the middle of the bar so that it stays balanced and we get 40 points instead of 25 is this allowed?

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Yes per rule you can have 1-3 robots climb in order to be level. It doesn’t matter if you have 1 2 or 3 robots climbing.

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thank you

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If you have a bar that’s higher off the ground, why wouldn’t they just climb the rung?

Potentially yours could be more level, somewhat lower than the bar, etc. I wouldn’t call it a great strategy, but it’s the one that would probably be easiest (that I’ve thought of at least)

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I think it makes sense, particularly if some robots are designed to pass through the trench, their height would be limited to 28" tall. The difference in height between the rung (when level) and their robot is 35". In contrast, if your robot is 45" (max height) the difference in height between the rung and your robot would be 18". Latching onto a rung 35" higher than you are seems a lot more difficult than a rung that is 18" higher than the robot.

Keep in mind, you’re looking at benefits here without any of the drawbacks.

Is the bar more level? Yes, but only if they aren’t climbing first/simultaneous.
Can the secondary robot PLAN for that rung existing? Practically no.
Does the benefit gained by the level bar get countered by the new challenge to keep both robots off the ground after the buddy robot causes a greater tilt? Absolutely.

The buddy robot shouldn’t have planned for that existing so their climbing mechanism should be able to reach the rung itself.

The carrying robot, unless cheesecaking, will be better served by ensuring their climber can handle a tilted rung as that’s something they’ll run into more often than a robot that can grab that extra rung.

I wasn’t, I was just stating the benefits, as your previous post had implied (to me) that there weren’t any.

My previous post meant the drawbacks are enough such that it doesn’t make sense to do so.

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