Could someone confirm if I’m interpreting rule R.30 correctly here? We want to drive two 12volt LED strips off an automation direct relay. It looks like R.30 would consider the combined strips a single custom circuit that we control on the relay.
If not would it count as two low-load custom circuits which can also be driven off a single relay? Each strip draws approximately 500mA max.
We would use 18 gauge wire and a 20amp fuse, which seems to meet the wire gauge requirement.
We are thinking of wiring it like this:
You could wire the LEDs into the PCM if they are 12V LEDs and you are using 12V Solenoids.
Wiring both LED strings through one relay is allowed as you noted.
However, the wiring is incorrect. The black and red wires from the PDP would go into the relay input terminals, and the LEDs would be connected in parallel as you show, but both to into the output terminals of the relay. OK, I see now that you have the inputs at the top and that the relay port provides enough voltage and current to switch the MOSFET directly; it doesn’t need the 12V as I thought.
The PCM will only source 500mA total for all of the solenoid outputs.
Black and red into relay is how the spike is wired.
The automation direct relays are different .
I thought about that, but the pcm users guide specifies 500mA current for all channels. I think we would exceed that .
Thanks for the input. I think we will go with the relay.
The relay’s actuation coil still has to have a ground line. As pictured, the only possible routes to ground are the relay port of the RIO or the LEDs, neither of which seems likely.
Also note that as this is a custom circuit, you do not have to use the spike or AD relay. You can use a much less expensive 12V relay module which could be controlled through a DIO pin.
The automation direct relay uses optical switching - I didn’t think it had an actuation coil.
We ran it on a bench top with the wiring diagram shown , and it seemed to work fine.
We’ll check out other relays. Thanks !
Also available in 2-, 4-, 8-, and 16- channel versions. I recommend the 12V versions over 5V so you don’t need to have a regulator.
You are controlling two units in parallel with one source. You add amp draw. 1 strip is 500ma. Then 2 will be 1000ma or 1amp. If relay is rated at 500ma, you will burn the contacts of relay.
Fuses are used to protect the units, not the wire. You should calculate in rush time & amp for the right fuse. If 1 unit pulls 500ma and 2 units are 1000ma then using a 20000ma fuse, is a very bad idea. A 1a or 2a fuse is better.
It would be best to fuse each unit by them selves. Maybe 1amp fuse per unit.
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#16 wire can handle 5amp. You are putting 20amp on a #18. For a circuit that should never draw more than 1amp.
The three AD relays (legal for for small actuators and custom circuits) and the relay I linked (legal for custom circuits only) are all rated at least 10A.
The automation direct relay is rated for 12 amps, and the 18 gauge wire is rated for 20 amps per rule R.53. So, it seems like a 10 amp fuse will be sufficient to protect both relay and wire. A 20 amp fuse could put the relay at risk.
Either way , I think the LED strip would become an open circuit if we tried to pump 20 amps though it, but I will try to find a compatible 10amp fuse.
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