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Date Answered: 2/22/2005 (hours before ship)
Q: Regarding the answer to ID 1617, do vertical “fingers” (skirt, wire ties, etc.) strategically placed around a base for the sole purpose of touching the loading zone HDPE “make” the robot in the loading zone.
A: Yes. After attending and receiving feedback from several scrimmages this past weekend (2/19), we will allow robot-base appendages that are within and remain within the 28" x 38" dimensions to contact the loading zone and be legal.
**What! ** I’m very disappointed in the rules folks at FIRST. I’m not saying that the ruling soon after kickoff
ID: 978 Section: 4.3.3 Status: Answered Date Answered: 1/11/2005
Q: Regarding <G17>: What are the parameters for being “in” a loading zone? (i.e., must some part of the robot be touching the yellow triangle, et cetera)
A: There are no yellow triangles in the loading zones. The robot base and / or drive train must be touching the loading zone. The intent of this rule is that you must be in the loading zone. By making it blatantly obvious that you are in the loading zone, you will draw far less attention from the referees.
and subsequently, the ruling on February 16th,
ID: 1617 Section: 4.3.3 Status: Answered Date Answered: 2/16/2005
Q: As related to answer 978, Is a robot base considered “in” the loading zone if it isn’t touching the hdpe 36" equilateral triangle? If so, What is considered part of the robot base?
A: No. The robot base is considered to be any load-bearing surface within the maximum 28" x 38" robot base size.
were what I wanted to see BUT this is getting ridiculous.
First of all, it is becoming far to common that when teams don’t like a rule, they whine about it until FIRST changes it in their favor. The “put-your-tools-down … oh, we-mean-put-your-tools-down-then-pick-them-right-back-up” and “no-software-development … oh, we-mean-that-you-just-have-to-type-it-in-at-the-regional” rulings come to mind for this year.
Second, it sure would be nice for other teams to be part of this magical “feedback” loop so the other teams could express their displeasure about drastically changing a rule. We probably would have said something like, “you know FIRST, we did CHOP A FOOT OFF OF OUR ARM to meet your rule; why should the teams that decided upon the strategy of let’s-whine-alot or they’ll-never-call-it be rewarded and we end up with a stubby arm.”
Third, does FIRST Q&A system work on Saturday? It sure would have been nice for them to change the rule on Saturday night instead of a few hours before ship. I’d guess that the folks that were part of the “feedback” knew that FIRST was going to address the loading zone rule in their favor.
Fourth, even though I disagreed with the initial ruling (had to be touching versus having to be in the 3D space created by some-reasonable-height-vertically-projected-zone [6" high for example]), I was giving FIRST GENIUS points for instantly making the human player very, very valuable with their rulings. Now with the super-duper loading-zone-feelers (just $399 from Mississippi Curb Feelers, Inc.), the human player becomes much less valuable and thus, FIRST loses all of their genius points.
Finally, as I tell Casey, “it’s just another problem … don’t whine about it, just solve it.” Even though the short-term solution is to make a robot that meets the new rules, part of the long-term solution is expressing displeasure to FIRST about their actions.
Congratulations on making it through the build season … and my whining,