Low-Bar Challenged Robots - Support Group

[Doiteain]

What are the odds that 1114, 254 or similar will be joining your support group? While it may be slim, I think there is a chance.

Cheezy won’t be, but maybe the Canadians will…

[Michael_Blake]

I’ve always thought we make NICE bumpers…

2016 KNIGHTmare.

–Michael Blake

[Keefe2471]

Cheezy won’t be, but maybe the Canadians will…

You’re from that neck of the woods I guess, but based on the first low bar poll you might be wrong. (http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/poll.php?do=showresults&pollid=2577) You can look at the people that answered one way or another by following that link. (3 different 254 contributors voted saying they were not going under the low bar). But you’re right down the road from them… Hmmmm.

That said, I think that people have underestimated the value of an unblock-able and accurate shooter from the outer works. Obviously the shooter has to be accurate, but assuming your source boulders is the neutral zone or your secret passage, you can negate almost half the area (the entire enemy courtyard) where effective interference defense can be played. I think if most boulder runners shoot anywhere besides the outerworks safe zone or are blockable while inside that safe zone by a 54" nearby, defense will be a game changer in the elims. Even just a drivetain moving around in the enemy courtyard between the batter and the next boulder would have slowed down almost every robot I’ve seen video of from this weekend.

So 254 is probably (?) a member of the support group. Which just might be less of a support group and more of an exclusive club than most people realize. Haha.

Anyways, I would love to see people talk about how this analysis is flawed and what you think is a much more likely meta to emerge as more and more information comes out.

[Knufire]

I really don’t think top tier teams will be low bar robots. They’ll focus much more on being able to solo damage the other defenses (including class C), as well as having the fastest and most accurate high goal cycles/climbs as possible.

[Jared_Russell]

You can look at the people that answered one way or another by following that link. (3 different 254 contributors voted saying they were not going under the low bar). But you’re right down the road from them… Hmmmm.

[Keefe2471]

Awesome… lol

[Anthony_Galea]

We are in this category, hopefully it pays off!

[hutchMN]

2502 is joining the club

[safiq10]

Being born left-handed and part of about 15% of the general population I guess it was my destiny to also sign-off on a robot design that cannot go under the Low-Bar defense.

Having perused reveals and Week Zero events it looks like we are in a distinct minority this season in a sea of low-profile robots for this year’s game.

So I’m starting this thread to provide comfort and advice and a sounding board for fellow Low-Bar Challenged teams across the world of FIRST FRC to unite in fellowship and support… and to rally to one another’s side and, who knows, MAYBE change the world… because you are NOT alone.

–Michael Blake
3481 Bronc Botz

Thank you Michael for starting this support group. We once saw ourselves being Low-Bar able but when we drove up to it we realized we were just two inches too tall, but we have since gotten comfortable in our own aluminum and now we hope others can too. Take pride in being tall!

[Michael_Blake]

Thank you Michael for starting this support group. We once saw ourselves being Low-Bar able but when we drove up to it we realized we were just two inches too tall, but we have since gotten comfortable in our own aluminum and now we hope others can too. Take pride in being tall!

#ThinkTall #TallPower #PowertotheTalls #ImTallYoureNOT #GetShorty

–Michael Blake

[EricH]

1197 is low-bar challenged by choice. OTOH, we have a few tricks up our sleeves, and we aren’t scared of Defense #10 (dragons don’t burn other dragons).

[Ciaran.DeYoe]

I am guessing that the low bars are going to get clogged up within 30 seconds of tele-op. The big robots are useful for defense by blocking shots. Because if you get close enough to a robot no mater how tall it is you will be able to block the shots. I have yet to see a robot reveal where to robot is a big bot. I think you will just have to figure out how to most effectively play the game with your big robot. Best of luck

Keep in mind that while everyone says “gotta block dem high goal shots” doesn’t mean you have to. All the teams at least right now can’t make one even if they line up for 30 seconds. Our Robot is about a half of and inch under the height limit and we plan to never be a defense robot. You can still earn that qualification point without the low bar! Besides I see teams being slower at lowbar than Rockwall and Rough Terrain.

But I do love being in this support group. We will tower over other robots and I guess if 1st picks us (not likely) and wants us to play day D… We will.

[Michael_Blake]

1197 is low-bar challenged by choice. OTOH, we have a few tricks up our sleeves, and we aren’t scared of Defense #10 (dragons don’t burn other dragons).

Welcome to the group, Eric!

#ThinkTall #TallPower #PowertotheTalls #ImTallYoureNOT #GetShorty

–Michael Blake

[hardcopi]

Oh we definitely are not low-bar challenged… our bot could just plow through that, doubt it would even slow us down… oh… you mean under it… yeah we can’t do that.

At our practice event we were the biggest bot on the block, kinda like the feeling.

[Mastonevich]

I think 148 falls into the “similar” category and they are NOT a tall robot.

Don’t let me down powerhouses!

What are the odds that 1114, 254 or similar will be joining your support group? While it may be slim, I think there is a chance.

[Ryan_Swanson]

I’m 6’ 7" and my robot is 4’ 6" but it can still go under the low bar… can we still join your club?

[Robo_Hamsters]

Oh we definitely are not low-bar challenged… our bot could just plow through that, doubt it would even slow us down… oh… you mean under it… yeah we can’t do that.

Team 4466 here.

We’re in this category too. 4’5" 6 CIM powerhouse! NOTHING can shove us. :yikes:

Defense/blocking? NO PROBLEM!

[Woolly]

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Well, some 254 members also voted that they will be scoring 0 points solo.
No one really knows for sure that the Cheesy Poofs haven’t built a tall defensive robot. For that matter, no one knows for sure that we didn’t do the same thing.

I guess everyone will find out soon enough.

[Michael_Blake]

I’m 6’ 7" and my robot is 4’ 6" but it can still go under the low bar… can we still join your club?

Ryan… not sure Trans-Bar bots are eligible for the Support Group since you are not actually challenged.

INTERESTING thing to ponder, though…

–Michael Blake

[marshall]

Well… I was worried about 900’s bot not standing out this year… can safely say that won’t be a problem. #TeamTall