must have really big swerve modules
Just because a robot is low-bar capable doesn’t mean their shots can be easily blocked. I don’t see an advantage to not being able to go under the low bar, there are ways to account for the height difference, whether it’s a different shooting position or an elevated point of release.
To be entirely honest, I have no problem with teams that do low bar. I also do not see an issue with teams that shoot from an elevated position to get around the height limit. What I do feel is an issue, is that there will be teams that might not be able to do what they want to do as effectively because of the design constraint of the low-bar.
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The way we see it, most robots on the field will be low-bar capable, so why would we add to that? It only takes 1 robot to damage the low bar defense, so why (apart from easy traversal), would 3 robots need to center their entire design around going under 1 defense. To me, it seems like a similar situation to the feeder stations last year.
Being tall has some advantages. Want to play defense? Just sit in front of the other robots. Want to play offense? Congrats, you can shoot over most of the other robots on the field. Sure, you could get pushed around if you’re playing offense, but there’s only one defensive bot on each alliance in any match, so I guess you can just act as a diversion while another robot scores.
Being tall is two sides of the same coin, but tall robots can have a huge advantage. Yes, the low bar is the most ‘reliable’ of the defenses, but if the other 2 robots on your alliance both have the low bar, it doesn’t seem like a big deal to be honest.
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How about a low-bar challenged robot blocking your vision?
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You know, almost all of these robot reveals seem to be setting a low bar for the competition. We can all take solace in that.
Staying strong in these times of change as we are also a Vertically challenged robot (in a good way). We make limbo obsolete.
reporting in to bring my support for the left handed… I mean low bar challenged teams. 
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Here’s our entry to this Support Group I started… a pretty-tall 2016 KNIGHTmare…
APOLOGIES for the messy shop-area, I usually run a much tighter ship but we were cranking to finish TWO twin bots before Bag/Tag Day… a first for us…
Any comments or input are welcome… we’re busy iterating on the practice bot for the next two weeks… expecting to show more at Alamo…
CONGRATS to the Bronc Botz student team members… I’m a proud coach… 
–Michael Blake
Should reports on successful low-bar challenged robots be posted here to cheer up the support group, or do they deserve their own thread?
Team 1876 BeachBotics just scored 2 high goals and scaled in a dominant performance during their first Week 0.5 match at Palmetto. Or at least I think it was their very tall robot…livestream was a little fuzzy. 
Post these successes HERE!
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And for their next trick, 1876 scales with a ball on-board, and then shoots a high goal while it’s hanging from the rung! :yikes:
I’m in love with this robot.
Wouldn’t that be illegal as they are not in contact with the opponent’s courtyard carpet?
EDIT: My bad! I missed the part in G39 where it says you can be in contact with the opponents TOWER and still launch a BOULDER.
Lol Jared! (Internet LIES? Never) If it’s on the net…It Must Be Absolutely TRUE!
That poll does not even list a response from me, as when it came out I was absolutely dead set against our team making it all fit in that expected teeny tiny package (it was giving me absolute nightmares during what little sleep I was getting in weeks 1 & 2 just trying to figure out how you could squeeze all that you needed to into those very little spaces (and still work in them later that is), and do most everything in the game if absolutely forced to).
But we did, and we have all kinds of space left (at least on our boulder collecting/shooting end, even after handling low bar and all the other defenses, and shooting high/low over anything in front of us up to 4’~9" tall or so, plus scaling the tower via the ever historic Team 60 PTO.
It sure made it a long build season though. Waaaaaaaay too much prototyping! Not enough actual robot building early enough. I think they built 4 robots in the time frame…And have 1.75 to show for it currently.
Ohhhhhhh, TY for the addition. I missed that built in capability. A last second soft shot! (Our billboard is on the PTO Arm and is against the tower vertically during the scale, shooter is wide open, arc is right, height is right).
But, the first one that misses (bouncing it high/low off the tower or their own robot or the bar), and lands their boulder in another alliance members robot hanging on bar or parked on the batter (that already has a boulder in it), may end many of those last second attempts. Hard lessons may be learned.
It would be a killer to be ahead by a few points in the match, and take a penalty at the last moment due to that, and lose RP’s or worse Playoff matches. Hero to zero in 1 press of a button and a bounce.
Competition Week 1 reveals…
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