One of the few pictures in CD-Media that has a reasonably clean shot of their drivetrain: http://www.chiefdelphi.com/media/photos/21750 It looks like they had a mode that would make the robot 2WD plus one pivoting driving wheel–that shot seems to say they’ve got 2 fixed and one pivot.
Fun fact: of the 5 swerve drives on Einstein, only 2 were standard 4WD swerves (71 and 111). 2 were 3WD (67, 16), and one was a 6WD swerve (1625). 2 won the event (67, 111).
I don’t remember a single swerve on Einstein in 2006.
I am going to disagree with anyone making a blanket statement and say that, while it is more likely we will see a mecanum on Einstein this year than in previous years due to volume and increasing repository of good code/driving ability, we should reserve categorical judgment until Einstein actually, y’know, happens.
I think there’s a good chance we will see a mecanum on Einstein this year. Not because they have any inherent advantage in this game (they don’t), but because out of the many teams that have chosen that drivetrain this year, there is a decent chance that one of them will end up in the 12 teams on Einstein. Their drive won’t be the thing that gets them to that point though - it’ll be on the strength of their other mechanisms.
I believe Aren’s correct. Also, 2826 was VERY close to breaking the mecanum curse on einstein (although, they did use a jump drive to switch between mecanum and 6wd).
i doubt we will see a purely mechanum drive on Einstein, ever. team with the maximum amount of experience and funds, who might be able to make it competitive enough to get there, would probably spring for swerve or crab drive. teams a teir down from that resource wise usualy stick to tank drive and shifters, a octumanium or nonadrive might fall in this tier. because mechanum is “an easier way to get 3 degrees of freedom” it involves trade offs, and to get to Einstein you really cannot have many trade offs.
i doubt we will see a purely mechanum drive on Einstein, ever. team with the maximum amount of experience and funds, who might be able to make it competitive enough to get there, would probably spring for swerve or crab drive. teams a teir down from that resource wise usualy stick to tank drive and shifters, a octumanium or nonadrive might fall in this tier. because mechanum is “an easier way to get 3 degrees of freedom” it involves trade offs, and to get to Einstein you really cannot have many trade offs.
Agreed. I don’t see the most competitive teams choosing mecanum anytime in the near future.
There was a robot on Einstein with CIMple boxes and no floor loading.
How’s that for trade offs. Most of the robots on Einstein still used 6wd/8wd/skid steer tank, nothing complicated like swerve. Your logic is flawed. The drive bases on Einstein could have been produced by many “second tier” teams, the rest of the robot couldn’t be though.
i was very disappointed with Einstein this year, it seems like most years Einstein has the 12 most competitive robots giver or take, i felt like the powerhouse robots were not distributed amongst the divisions well, and alliance choosing was not the greatest. while the teams on Einstein were amazing, i did not think it was very balanced.
I think that eventually we will see one in the next few years. I have seen several teams with mecanums who are programming their robots to give them a competitive edge. Granted there are trade offs but 1503 proved this year that trade offs don’t hurt you when done right.
I have seen one mecanum robot from this year that can’t be pushed easy and from knowing this team, they will build immensely on what they learned this year!
Wow, seriously? 1503 was pretty clearly one of the best robots this year, and pretty much the steal of the Newton draft. Did you not see them put up 8+ tubes on Einstein?
But Einstein is never the best 12 robots. It is the best 4 alliances. I’ve seen many years where the best robots don’t end up on Einstein because they didn’t pick well or they had bad strategy or mediocre drivers. I’ve said it dozens of times, a robot does not win events you have to have the whole package.
yes, but i knew Galileo. would still win. in past years the championships winner was pre-determined, but barring major failure, i didn’t think anyone had much of a chance against the alliance that still won.
