Looks like the numbers are in and everyone is getting signed up for States. I didn’t see a thread on MSC, so I thought I’d start one. I hope that’s ok. 
I am very happy and proud to say that this year will be the first year for Team 2611 the Jacktown Vectors to attend states. The team is pretty thrilled and we are looking forward to competing and working with everyone!
3414, the Hackbots are pumped to make it to states for the first time as a team 
It will be fun to see all the awesome robots out there again and hope we can do well. We do have a trick up our sleeves to make our robot even better. I have been to states before when I was mentoring a different team and it is always a fun time. Good Luck to all team participating.
Team 3421 - Tachyon TECs is also exited to be going to the state championships. This will be our first time as a team making it to this level of competition.
I can wait to play with and against all the other awesome robots/teams that will be there.
See you guys in a few days.
It will be some great competition and it seems talent is spread across the state. The top 8 ranked teams are split down the middle for East-West representation. Michigan State Championship finals has been a good showcase of great teams bound for nationals.
http://www.firstinmichigan.org/FRC_2013/frc_2013_season.html
Similar to what I did in previous years, I ran through 100 simulated qualification match schedules (with 12 matches per team, using the FIRST match generator).
I used each team’s world rank OPR from Ed Law’s spreadsheet to determine their contribution to a match. I also used the autonomous OPR, climb OPR, and teleop OPR to help calculate the standings.
I calculated the results for each of the 100 simulated qualification schedules, and then looked at some statistics from the aggregate results.
The following were the values that were used in the simulation
OPR Teleop Auto Climb
469 76.70 46.58 23.26 6.90
33 65.54 27.61 30.20 8.31
2959 56.70 28.24 18.49 10.56
67 55.15 36.23 11.63 7.48
1718 53.98 31.35 12.41 10.13
245 52.97 31.29 14.16 7.76
2054 52.10 24.78 20.22 7.49
862 48.60 25.42 13.08 10.30
4325 47.20 21.94 16.43 9.31
3414 45.48 23.35 12.20 10.17
1918 45.01 20.52 17.16 7.62
2474 42.75 25.46 19.09 -0.81
3539 41.98 20.12 15.84 6.14
3641 41.92 21.27 9.36 11.43
573 41.75 24.20 9.89 8.19
3234 41.74 18.91 13.31 10.34
2612 41.22 18.57 14.86 7.80
1684 40.27 25.02 9.89 5.22
70 38.81 11.59 20.87 6.53
51 38.59 17.14 14.33 7.35
3572 38.24 9.08 14.01 15.46
2000 38.07 16.77 14.06 7.52
68 36.92 22.74 12.86 1.38
4384 36.73 14.53 15.02 7.18
27 36.43 26.37 11.73 -1.54
494 36.36 6.38 19.99 5.72
2619 36.24 17.80 11.87 6.34
4130 35.84 18.19 10.29 7.38
858 35.34 14.03 12.58 8.76
1189 34.86 12.18 15.18 7.61
2145 34.36 22.38 2.91 9.29
107 33.78 17.25 6.68 9.35
2137 33.78 15.90 10.51 7.67
123 32.77 17.09 10.93 5.32
326 32.66 15.38 13.26 3.94
2771 31.34 17.86 13.15 0.12
3604 31.26 21.68 7.27 2.24
3656 30.13 14.11 11.44 4.36
314 29.59 18.09 8.63 2.83
4381 29.32 8.62 13.90 7.26
1023 29.32 8.16 9.24 12.68
3688 28.55 13.72 9.76 6.06
2673 28.30 10.25 10.31 7.86
2767 28.21 16.63 8.28 4.17
1701 27.30 8.56 11.26 7.93
3602 26.77 10.91 7.96 8.12
3618 26.01 17.18 3.77 4.65
1504 26.01 11.05 7.06 7.74
217 25.84 18.37 6.87 0.87
280 25.18 10.49 11.36 3.49
2851 25.01 7.61 8.39 9.36
2611 24.68 4.98 10.97 8.69
503 23.49 13.71 6.69 3.77
141 21.81 1.08 12.28 8.58
1025 21.58 1.12 1.43 19.26
4391 20.57 6.32 8.33 5.75
2834 20.50 10.61 6.59 3.89
2337 20.19 6.13 8.52 5.88
857 19.81 4.08 9.80 5.91
2960 19.05 9.80 3.26 5.90
3421 12.87 2.10 5.31 5.45
548 12.47 6.98 7.18 -1.65
910 11.53 7.46 5.12 -0.60
4377 10.56 2.99 6.16 1.64
Here are the results of how teams seed:
AvgRnk MedRnk ModeRnk MinRnk MaxRnk SDRnk #1Seed Top8
469 1.54 1 1 1 9 1.07 66 99
33 2.93 2 2 1 13 2.32 26 97
2959 5.83 5 3 1 22 3.94 2 82
67 8.91 6.5 4 1 29 6.42 3 62
2054 10.02 7 6 1 38 7.33 1 56
245 10.2 8 3 1 34 7.04 1 52
1718 10.66 9 4 2 34 7.26 0 43
862 12.51 11 5 2 33 7.37 0 38
4325 12.85 11 8 2 46 8.99 0 41
1918 14.28 13 12 2 47 8.97 0 25
3414 16.96 15 15 3 56 9.78 0 20
2474 19 18 20 3 61 11.43 0 20
3539 19.03 19 19 3 50 11.29 0 20
573 21.7 21 18 3 45 10.51 0 11
2612 21.98 21 12 4 49 10.67 0 9
51 22 20.5 16 3 50 11.40 0 10
3234 22.86 22 12 3 60 12.32 0 14
3641 23 22 16 4 47 10.73 0 7
2000 23.29 21 15 2 51 12.51 0 7
70 23.31 22 19 1 53 12.91 1 14
3572 24 22.5 8 2 60 14.32 0 17
1684 25.36 24 24 6 56 12.14 0 8
494 25.74 25.5 26 3 55 12.25 0 6
68 26.37 26 32 6 56 11.86 0 1
4384 26.74 27 30 4 55 11.90 0 6
27 26.84 26 30 6 53 12.76 0 5
1189 27.48 27 21 3 56 10.59 0 1
2619 27.88 26.5 23 4 59 12.05 0 2
858 28.33 27 21 7 56 11.88 0 2
4130 30.61 30 24 6 57 12.73 0 2
326 32 30.5 22 4 62 13.52 0 1
2137 32.72 33 39 5 60 11.77 0 1
2771 33 31 28 2 64 13.69 0 3
123 33.55 33 30 5 62 14.87 0 3
2145 33.78 36 36 4 60 14.11 0 3
107 34.93 36 26 6 61 12.93 0 2
3656 36.97 38 32 6 64 13.46 0 4
4381 38.14 38 48 6 64 12.34 0 2
3604 38.31 41.5 42 9 63 13.46 0 0
3688 38.9 40 42 7 62 12.56 0 1
2673 39.66 40 40 10 60 11.92 0 0
1023 40.38 43 50 9 61 12.62 0 0
314 40.62 42 48 6 64 12.94 0 1
1701 40.96 42.5 50 10 62 11.88 0 0
2767 42.72 42 51 15 62 10.36 0 0
2611 43.11 46 54 10 64 12.18 0 0
1504 43.64 44 52 15 64 12.28 0 0
3602 43.74 45.5 51 15 62 12.24 0 0
280 43.76 45 46 6 62 11.84 0 1
3618 44.96 46 53 8 63 12.09 0 1
217 45.4 46 44 11 62 11.06 0 0
2851 46.89 50 52 20 64 10.94 0 0
141 48.07 51 56 21 64 11.30 0 0
2337 49.98 51 56 26 64 9.33 0 0
4391 50.29 54 57 17 64 10.79 0 0
503 50.39 52 63 19 64 10.19 0 0
857 50.51 53 56 16 64 10.57 0 0
1025 50.85 53 63 18 64 10.80 0 0
2834 51.2 54.5 60 16 64 10.31 0 0
2960 53.61 55 59 19 64 8.74 0 0
3421 57.81 60 64 32 64 6.39 0 0
548 58.26 60 63 32 64 6.19 0 0
910 59.32 61 64 36 64 5.65 0 0
4377 59.36 61 64 38 64 5.23 0 0
Here are the results for number of wins:
AvgWins MedWins ModeWins MinWins MaxWins SDWins
469 11.5 12 12 9 12 0.66
33 10.49 11 11 8 12 1.05
2959 9.65 10 10 7 12 1.06
67 9.29 9 10 7 12 1.23
1718 8.91 9 10 6 12 1.34
245 8.87 9 10 6 12 1.31
2054 8.58 9 9 5 11 1.27
862 8.51 8 8 6 12 1.31
4325 8.22 8 8 4 11 1.33
3414 7.82 8 8 3 11 1.37
1918 7.96 8 8 4 11 1.47
2474 7.17 7 7 2 10 1.52
3539 7.33 7 7 4 10 1.53
3641 7.26 7 8 4 10 1.30
573 7.3 7 7 5 11 1.35
3234 6.98 7 7 2 10 1.58
2612 6.96 7 8 4 11 1.37
1684 6.91 7 8 3 10 1.55
70 6.7 7 6 3 12 1.66
51 6.99 7 7 4 10 1.49
3572 6.78 7 7 2 11 1.82
2000 6.93 7 8 4 11 1.58
68 6.5 6.5 6 3 10 1.40
4384 6.35 6 6 3 10 1.40
27 6.59 7 6 3 10 1.63
494 6.31 6 6 3 10 1.43
2619 6.4 7 7 2 10 1.45
4130 6.22 6 7 3 10 1.57
858 6.25 6 6 3 9 1.41
1189 6.23 6 6 3 10 1.24
2145 6.1 6 6 2 10 1.65
107 5.87 6 6 2 10 1.62
2137 5.86 6 5 2 10 1.47
123 5.73 6 6 2 10 1.77
326 5.72 6 6 2 10 1.65
2771 5.67 6 7 1 10 1.72
3604 5.42 5 5 1 9 1.66
3656 5.25 5 6 1 9 1.73
314 5.05 5 6 0 10 1.71
4381 4.98 5 4 0 9 1.53
1023 5.05 5 4 2 9 1.54
3688 5.15 5 5 2 9 1.56
2673 5.04 5 5 2 9 1.43
2767 4.8 5 5 1 7 1.31
1701 4.79 5 5 1 8 1.43
3602 4.72 5 4 1 8 1.56
3618 4.69 5 5 1 9 1.57
1504 4.71 5 5 1 8 1.61
217 4.54 4.5 4 2 8 1.40
280 4.39 4 5 1 10 1.61
2851 4.28 4 3 1 7 1.43
2611 4.5 4 4 0 8 1.53
503 3.83 4 4 1 8 1.42
141 3.7 3.5 3 0 7 1.57
1025 3.87 4 3 1 8 1.50
4391 3.79 4 3 0 8 1.55
2834 3.65 3.5 3 1 8 1.57
2337 3.68 4 4 0 7 1.39
857 3.53 3 3 0 8 1.49
2960 3.54 3 3 0 8 1.36
3421 2.51 2.5 2 0 5 1.34
548 2.36 2 2 0 6 1.22
910 2.23 2 2 0 6 1.24
4377 2.21 2 2 0 6 1.16
Can not wait for States. This is big for our team since we’re so young. Looking to build off of our State Rookie All Star Award.
I ran the actual match schedule using each teams BEST OPR so far (everyone generally brings their A game to states). Here are the predicted standings:
NOTE: I just did win/loss. I didn’t do tiebreakers for auto, etc. For groups with the same number of wins, they are just sorted by team number.
Team W L
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33 11 1
67 11 1
469 11 1
2054 11 1
2000 10 2
1189 9 3
2612 9 3
3539 9 3
494 8 4
1718 8 4
1918 8 4
2145 8 4
2474 8 4
2619 8 4
2851 8 4
2959 8 4
3641 8 4
51 7 5
314 7 5
503 7 5
1504 7 5
2137 7 5
3414 7 5
3572 7 5
27 6 6
70 6 6
123 6 6
326 6 6
573 6 6
862 6 6
1701 6 6
2337 6 6
2611 6 6
2673 6 6
3604 6 6
4130 6 6
68 5 7
107 5 7
245 5 7
858 5 7
1023 5 7
1684 5 7
2771 5 7
3234 5 7
3618 5 7
3656 5 7
3688 5 7
4325 5 7
4381 5 7
217 4 8
548 4 8
2767 4 8
2960 4 8
4384 4 8
4391 4 8
1025 3 9
3602 3 9
4377 3 9
141 2 10
280 2 10
857 2 10
910 2 10
2834 2 10
3421 2 10
WOW! This match schedule has baked in losses for pretty much everyone!
Some of the alliances would probably do real well on Einstein, too!
This is going to be intense! :eek:
Here’s what I got using each team’s world rank OPR, including simulating Auto, Teleop, and Climb.
Rank Team Wins Losses Ties Matches QP HP TP BP
1 2054 12 0 0 12 24 517 680 252
2 1718 11 0 1 12 23 446 847 289
3 469 11 1 0 12 22 510 953 254
4 33 9 1 2 12 20 603 715 247
5 2959 10 2 0 12 20 475 693 301
6 70 9 2 1 12 19 507 561 231
7 2612 9 2 1 12 19 501 649 253
8 1189 9 2 1 12 19 465 560 283
9 494 9 3 0 12 18 552 510 216
10 3539 9 3 0 12 18 488 672 236
11 67 9 3 0 12 18 435 845 244
12 3414 8 4 0 12 16 450 680 291
13 862 8 4 0 12 16 448 646 286
14 2619 8 4 0 12 16 422 633 243
15 2851 8 4 0 12 16 417 541 280
16 51 7 4 1 12 15 427 571 258
17 2771 7 4 1 12 15 416 625 177
18 1918 7 5 0 12 14 496 624 230
19 4325 7 5 0 12 14 475 668 282
20 245 6 4 2 12 14 461 746 233
21 3572 7 5 0 12 14 457 554 319
22 314 7 5 0 12 14 399 639 172
23 2611 7 5 0 12 14 389 436 265
24 123 7 5 0 12 14 386 572 221
25 503 7 5 0 12 14 367 579 207
26 1684 6 5 1 12 13 432 688 214
27 27 6 5 1 12 13 419 668 129
28 573 6 5 1 12 13 390 598 242
29 3641 6 5 1 12 13 359 634 290
30 2000 6 6 0 12 12 457 625 254
31 4384 6 6 0 12 12 442 535 242
32 326 6 6 0 12 12 420 560 217
33 107 6 6 0 12 12 358 565 270
34 2145 6 6 0 12 12 334 664 275
35 2474 5 7 0 12 10 472 694 127
36 68 5 7 0 12 10 434 635 154
37 1701 5 7 0 12 10 428 535 245
38 4381 5 7 0 12 10 416 416 273
39 3688 5 7 0 12 10 415 576 229
40 1023 5 7 0 12 10 393 499 296
41 3656 5 7 0 12 10 382 563 240
42 4391 5 7 0 12 10 377 456 232
43 2137 5 7 0 12 10 375 576 213
44 3602 5 7 0 12 10 365 457 226
45 1504 5 7 0 12 10 343 579 243
46 548 4 7 1 12 9 386 463 128
47 3234 4 8 0 12 8 408 564 264
48 2673 4 8 0 12 8 392 510 229
49 4130 4 8 0 12 8 390 589 242
50 217 4 8 0 12 8 365 606 182
51 3618 4 8 0 12 8 329 621 213
52 2767 3 9 0 12 6 402 572 225
53 858 3 9 0 12 6 397 511 260
54 857 3 9 0 12 6 376 414 238
55 3604 3 9 0 12 6 365 656 160
56 4377 3 9 0 12 6 358 469 207
57 2834 3 9 0 12 6 343 472 206
58 910 3 9 0 12 6 339 447 158
59 2960 3 9 0 12 6 330 503 210
60 1025 3 9 0 12 6 305 410 362
61 280 2 9 1 12 5 366 471 188
62 2337 1 9 2 12 4 383 476 236
63 141 2 10 0 12 4 381 361 255
64 3421 2 10 0 12 4 325 423 204
Here’s what I got using Best OPR, counting ties when they were within 1 point. Match 82 has a 173-173 tie! It looks like everything else matches up. I used the world OPR for auto, teleop, and climb.
Rank Team Wins Losses Ties Matches QP HP TP BP
1 469 11 0 1 12 23 510 953 254
2 2054 11 1 0 12 22 517 680 252
3 67 11 1 0 12 22 435 845 244
4 33 10 1 1 12 21 603 715 247
5 2000 10 2 0 12 20 457 625 254
6 2612 9 3 0 12 18 501 649 253
7 1189 9 3 0 12 18 465 560 283
8 3539 8 3 1 12 17 488 672 236
9 2145 8 3 1 12 17 334 664 275
10 1918 8 4 0 12 16 496 624 230
11 2959 8 4 0 12 16 475 693 301
12 2474 8 4 0 12 16 472 694 127
13 1718 8 4 0 12 16 446 847 289
14 2619 8 4 0 12 16 422 633 243
15 2851 8 4 0 12 16 417 541 280
16 3641 8 4 0 12 16 359 634 290
17 494 7 4 1 12 15 552 510 216
18 3572 7 5 0 12 14 457 554 319
19 3414 7 5 0 12 14 450 680 291
20 51 7 5 0 12 14 427 571 258
21 2137 7 5 0 12 14 375 576 213
22 503 7 5 0 12 14 367 579 207
23 1504 7 5 0 12 14 343 579 243
24 314 6 5 1 12 13 399 639 172
25 70 6 6 0 12 12 507 561 231
26 862 6 6 0 12 12 448 646 286
27 1701 6 6 0 12 12 428 535 245
28 326 6 6 0 12 12 420 560 217
29 27 6 6 0 12 12 419 668 129
30 2673 6 6 0 12 12 392 510 229
31 4130 6 6 0 12 12 390 589 242
32 2611 6 6 0 12 12 389 436 265
33 123 6 6 0 12 12 386 572 221
34 2337 6 6 0 12 12 383 476 236
35 3604 6 6 0 12 12 365 656 160
36 2771 5 6 1 12 11 416 625 177
37 3234 5 6 1 12 11 408 564 264
38 573 5 6 1 12 11 390 598 242
39 3618 5 6 1 12 11 329 621 213
40 4325 5 7 0 12 10 475 668 282
41 245 5 7 0 12 10 461 746 233
42 68 5 7 0 12 10 434 635 154
43 1684 5 7 0 12 10 432 688 214
44 3688 5 7 0 12 10 415 576 229
45 858 5 7 0 12 10 397 511 260
46 1023 5 7 0 12 10 393 499 296
47 3656 5 7 0 12 10 382 563 240
48 107 5 7 0 12 10 358 565 270
49 4381 4 7 1 12 9 416 416 273
50 217 4 7 1 12 9 365 606 182
51 4384 4 8 0 12 8 442 535 242
52 2767 4 8 0 12 8 402 572 225
53 548 4 8 0 12 8 386 463 128
54 4391 4 8 0 12 8 377 456 232
55 2960 4 8 0 12 8 330 503 210
56 3602 3 9 0 12 6 365 457 226
57 4377 3 9 0 12 6 358 469 207
58 1025 3 9 0 12 6 305 410 362
59 141 2 10 0 12 4 381 361 255
60 857 2 10 0 12 4 376 414 238
61 280 2 10 0 12 4 366 471 188
62 2834 2 10 0 12 4 343 472 206
63 910 2 10 0 12 4 339 447 158
64 3421 2 10 0 12 4 325 423 204
Using Best OPR, 13 matches predicted to be at or above 300 combined.
Match Red 1 Red 2 Red 3 Blue 1 Blue 2 Blue 3 RScore BScore
82 3539 33 494 2145 3618 469 173 173
50 3618 67 2474 3414 1718 2054 174 170
32 2474 2767 2959 67 245 3539 154 189
5 1504 469 1718 3604 68 245 188 151
121 33 3414 2767 3421 469 2054 161 169
68 2474 3604 1684 314 33 326 161 168
89 245 1189 1718 1684 33 27 163 165
101 1918 67 33 123 2137 3688 198 125
41 469 2771 1701 2851 326 67 175 147
116 2612 469 217 3234 910 2474 178 136
126 1189 3539 4384 67 217 2137 146 163
63 3539 70 1684 1918 2771 2000 150 155
57 862 3572 494 2959 2612 1718 133 167
Good Grief!!! If you watch any Ultimate Ascent this year, you need to be watching MSC!!!
First 5 matches out of the chute, ~half the participants, BOTH alliances averaging over 100 points!
Wow. Just. Wow!
I wish I was at this event as a spectator. I’ll be peeking into the webcast… good luck to all of the great teams at this event!
The matches have not disappointed so far, only 1 qual match did not post a 100+ score, and that was a 96-83 score.
Looking forward to see who comes out on top after 128 qual matches
Stream 1 has no sound, but the camera’s are dynamic and its connected to the FMS. Stream 2 has sound, but it is one far away camera with no FMS scores. I would use the sound from Stream 2, but it is about 4-5 seconds behind stream 1. Any way to fix it?
Easy, watch stream 1 from 1,500,000 km away and listen to stream 2 right next to you 
*Has anyone posted something like this?
It shows what teams each team plays with and against in the MSC CMP Qual Schedule.
Luck of the draw.
*
MSC_Qual_Sched.xls (67 KB)
MSC_Qual_Sched.xls (67 KB)
Average winning alliance score is 143. Average losing alliance score is 102. Median alliance score is 124. Wow!
I hear you. We’re 1 win/2 loss and our lowest score (122) is the only match we won.
For anyone that missed the action today. Here is FiM’s youtube channel where they have archived all of the matches at MSC.