Installed Labview and FRC Tools, and 3rd Party folder is blank in WPI Library. I uninstalled the FRC Tools and reinstalled them, but still nothing there. I have looked for a separate download on CTR, but can’t find anything. Any suggestions? Thanks.
You get the third party software from the third parties.
For CTRE it comes with the Phoenix Framework, which you will need to set CAN ID, update firmware, etc. on the CTRE devices. You have to use Phoenix Tuner to install LabVIEW support libraries on the roboRIO as well.
https://store.ctr-electronics.com/software/
Thanks, I looked at that page and for some reason didn’t see the Framework, only the Tuner which I already had. Good to go now. Thanks.
Keep in mind that you’ll need to get the REV version of LabVIEW libraries if you’re using any REV hardware.
Here’s where the 3rd party software is listed.
I had trouble installing the REV library. It wants a newer version of package manager than supplied with the frc software. I submitted this to REV but haven’t heard back. ( I was able to work around this by upgrading package manager, but I’m not sure the work around will work for 32 bit windows. )
The ctre library installed okay. But we have seen a quirk that sometimes the robot has to be power cycled for motor outputs to work. I want to review the code in question to make sure this isn’t a Programmer issue first.
If you open the NI Package Manager installed, there should be a link/message at the top of that window encouraging you to upgrade. If you click that, it’ll update NIPM to the newest released version.
Packages should be forward compatible, meaning anything for FRC would work with the newest version. It sounds like REV’s installer is using a newer version as a dependency and those don’t tend to be backwards compatible.
This has really just been a long way to say: Don’t worry about upgrading Package Manager.
Thanks. I did do that and it worked.
However, I was concerned that solution may not work on 32 bit operating systems. I think that the last version of package manager that would create packages that could be be installed on 32 bit systems was 20.0.something. (Maybe 20.0.5).
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Did the software suite install on your system at all?
I wouldn’t expect the RIO driver or Image functionality to install on a 32-bit OS. Starting with the 2021 releases, all NI software no longer supports 32-bit OS options. Given the roboRIO2.0 support requires the 2021 version of those two bits of software, that’s what’s included with the software stack.
If it did work, I wouldn’t expect it to work for the next FRC season as the LabVIEW version included will bump beyond the 2021 threshold.
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Thanks.
So far we have only installed on 64 bit systems. (I was mostly thinking of others…)
I think the documentation should be clarified if the software will only work on 64 bit Windows 10.
I understand about LabVIEW 2021 only working on 64 bit, but FRC is using LabVIEW 2020 this year. (So I thought 32 bit still…)
The FRC documentation just says windows 10 but no indication of which one. (Which would seem to suggest any Windows 10.) The downloads for both LV and Game Tools do say 64bit if you click to expand the drop down box on the right. The main box indicates the software is 32 bit, but this may mean that it is 32 bit software that only runs on a 64 bit os…
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You’re right on that last part. The software itself is 32-bit and that will continue to be supported. Installing it and running it on a 32-bit OS is what won’t be. This sounds strange. It’s mostly reliant upon OS options going forward not really having 64-bit support. macOS dropped it years ago. Linux is primarily 64-bit. I believe MS stopped releasing new 32-bit options.
Which documentation are you thinking about? I can poke the folks that write it to make sure that gets called out in more clear language, especially leading into the FRC 2023 season.
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