Missouri and Kansas rankings

Jaxom · March 18, 2013, 8:36pm

I thought it’d be fun to join California and Texas and apply the FiM ranking system to Missouri and Kansas teams.

Only 1986 has gone to two events as of week 3, so Missouri looks a bit out of whack:


Rank    Team  Points
1	1986	149      (78 points max; Hub City)
2	1806	66
3	3284	64
4	1288	63
5	1939	58
6	1658	45
7	1985	45
8	1706	45
9	1775	42
10	1730	42
11	2408	42
12	3528	41
13	2457	37
14	1329	37
15	3885	35
16	4256	34
17	1444	31
18	1987	28
19	1094	27
20	1825	24
21	4330	24
22	2357	24
23	2346	23
24	2978	22
25	2345	22
26	1763	21
27	3862	21
28	3792	20
29	3784	17
30	4329	16
31	1182	15
32	1764	15
33	4455	14
34	2353	14
35	4500	14
36	931	13
37	4402	12
38	4356	12
39	3330	12
40	1737	12
41	4809	12
42	2164	10
43	4231	10
44	4331	10
45	4600	8
46	3397	8
47	4522	8
48	2001	8
49	2560	8
50	2167	6
51	1827	6
52	1723	6
53	1785	6
54	1178	6
55	4154	6
56	2838	6
57	3973	4
58	2874	4
59	4404	2
60	2902	2
61	3764	0 (has not yet competed)

Kansas:


Rank    Team  Points
1	1108	42
2	935	27
3	1982	23
4	1810	23
5	938	19
6	1710	18
7	2335	12
8	2410	10
9	3485	10
10	1984	8
11	1777	6
12	1769	6
13	1997	6
14	1847	6
15	937	6
16	1994	4
17	1802	2
18	1448	0 (has not yet competed)
19	3798	0 (has not yet competed)
20	3172	0 (has not yet competed)

The FIRST in Michigan rules supplement, which includes the points system, can be found here: http://www.firstinmichigan.org/FRC_2013/2013_Rules_Supplement.pdf

CalTran · March 18, 2013, 8:41pm

Heyyy, we’re tied for 8th best robot in KC right now. I was going to offer help with this project, but it would appear that you don’t need it anymore :rolleyes: I like how it puts a comparison for all teams in your local area, even if you didn’t compete with them.

Jaxom · March 18, 2013, 9:05pm

Thanks for the (almost) offer; as it turned out it wasn’t as hard as I thought. Thanks to Basel A’s post in the California rankings thread I had an easy time getting all of the team and event info. The rest of it wasn’t that time-consuming; obviously GKC & STL took the vast majority of the time once I set up the spreadsheet. The rest of the weeks won’t be hard to update; we have fewer, remaining, competitions in those 3 combined than were in either STL or GKC last weekend.

I’m sure I made an error or eight, but it’s probably pretty close.

Jaxom · March 24, 2013, 4:23pm

Only one Missouri (1985) and one Kansas (3172) team competed in week 4; Queen City & Dallas respectively. So updating the data for this week was simple. Congratulations to 1985 for joining the MO & KS teams going to CMP; we’ll see you there.

Missouri:


Rank    Team  Points
1	1986	149  (78 & 71)
2	1985	103  (45 & 58)
3	1806	66
4	3284	64
5	1288	63
6	1939	58
7	1706	45
8	1658	45
9	1775	42
10	1730	42
11	2408	42
12	3528	41
13	2457	37
14	1329	37
15	3885	35
16	4256	34
17	1444	31
18	1987	28
19	1094	27
20	1825	24
21	4330	24
22	2357	24
23	2346	23
24	2978	22
25	2345	22
26	1763	21
27	3862	21
28	3792	20
29	3784	17
30	4329	16
31	1182	15
32	1764	15
33	4455	14
34	2353	14
35	4500	14
36	931	13
37	4402	12
38	4356	12
39	3330	12
40	1737	12
41	4809	12
42	2164	10
43	4231	10
44	4331	10
45	4600	8
46	3397	8
47	4522	8
48	2001	8
49	2560	8
50	2167	6
51	1827	6
52	1723	6
53	1785	6
54	1178	6
55	4154	6
56	2838	6
57	3973	4
58	2874	4
59	4404	2
60	2902	2
61	3764	0  (has not yet competed)

Kansas:


Rank    Team  Points
1	1108	42
2	935	27
3	3172	26
4	1982	23
5	1810	23
6	938	19
7	1710	18
8	2335	12
9	2410	10
10	3485	10
11	1984	8
12	1997	6
13	1769	6
14	937	6
15	1777	6
16	1847	6
17	1994	4
18	1802	2
19	3798	0  (has not yet competed)
20	1448	0  (has not yet competed)

Jaxom · March 31, 2013, 5:10pm

After week 5, we added 1987 (RCA at Alamo) to the list of Missouri & Kansas teams eligible for CMP. All teams have now competed in at least 1 event. In order to show a better comparison between teams that have gone to different numbers of events, I’ve included a maximum & average score. Only 1986 has been to 3 regionals; per FiM rules only the first 2 count so I’ve not included our data for Oklahoma.

Missouri:


Rank    Team  Points   Max    Average
1	1986	149	78	74.5  
2	1806	126	66	63.0
3	1985	103	58	51.5
4	3284	64	64	64.0
5	1288	63	63	63.0
6	1775	61	42	30.5
7	1939	58	58	58.0
8	1987	52	28	26.0
9	1658	45	45	45.0
10	1706	45	45	45.0
11	1730	42	42	42.0
12	2408	42	42	42.0
13	3528	41	41	41.0
14	1329	37	37	37.0
15	2457	37	37	37.0
16	3885	35	35	35.0
17	4256	34	34	34.0
18	1444	31	31	31.0
19	1094	27	27	27.0
20	2357	24	24	24.0
21	1825	24	24	24.0
22	4330	24	24	24.0
23	2346	23	23	23.0
24	2345	22	22	22.0
25	2978	22	22	22.0
26	3862	21	21	21.0
27	1763	21	21	21.0
28	3792	20	20	20.0
29	3784	17	17	17.0
30	4329	16	16	16.0
31	1764	15	15	15.0
32	1182	15	15	15.0
33	4455	14	14	14.0
34	4500	14	14	14.0
35	1785	14	8	7.0
36	2353	14	14	14.0
37	931	13	13	13.0
38	1737	12	12	12.0
39	4402	12	12	12.0
40	4356	12	12	12.0
41	3330	12	12	12.0
42	4809	12	12	12.0
43	4331	10	10	10.0
44	2164	10	10	10.0
45	4231	10	10	10.0
46	4522	8	8	8.0
47	2001	8	8	8.0
48	2560	8	8	8.0
49	3397	8	8	8.0
50	4600	8	8	8.0
51	1827	6	6	6.0
52	2167	6	6	6.0
53	1178	6	6	6.0
54	4154	6	6	6.0
55	2838	6	6	6.0
56	1723	6	6	6.0
57	2874	4	4	4.0
58	3973	4	4	4.0
59	3764	4	4	4.0
60	4404	2	2	2.0
61	2902	2	2	2.0

Kansas:


Rank    Team  Points   Max    Average
1	935	60	33	30.0
2	1108	42	42	42.0
3	938	27	19	13.5
4	3172	26	26	26.0
5	1982	23	23	23.0
6	1810	23	23	23.0
7	1448	20	20	20.0
8	1710	18	18	18.0
9	2335	12	12	12.0
10	3485	10	10	10.0
11	2410	10	10	10.0
12	1984	8	8	8.0
13	937	6	6	6.0
14	1777	6	6	6.0
15	1847	6	6	6.0
16	1997	6	6	6.0
17	3798	6	6	6.0
18	1769	6	6	6.0
19	1994	4	4	4.0
20	1802	2	2	2.0

SharonO · April 10, 2013, 8:12am

Out of curiosity, any chance of seeing an updated ranking list after teams competed for a second time in week 6 at Razorback?

Thanks!

Richard_Wallace · April 10, 2013, 9:31am

And Crossroads.

Did any Missouri/Kansas teams compete at other Week 6 events?

Jaxom · April 10, 2013, 3:55pm

Yes, I’m planning on updating…I’ve been travelling for work. Hopefully tonight.

Jaxom · April 10, 2013, 11:40pm

15 MO & KS teams competed at Crossroads and Razorback in week 6; 13 of those were in eliminations. Up Next! (3528) won EI at Razorback and RAVEN Robotics (1288) got a wild-card slot at Crossroads, adding 2 teams to the list of CMP-eligible teams.

MO:


Rank    Team  Points   Max    Average
1	1986	149	78	74.5
2	1806	126	66	63.0
3	1939	106	58	53.0
4	1288	104	63	52.0
5	1985	103	58	51.5
6	3284	96	64	48.0
7	3528	75	41	37.5
8	1730	71	42	35.5
9	1706	66	45	33.0
10	1775	61	42	30.5
11	4256	59	34	29.5
12	1987	52	28	26.0
13	1094	45	27	22.5
14	1658	45	45	45.0
15	2408	42	42	42.0
16	931	41	28	20.5
17	2457	37	37	37.0
18	1329	37	37	37.0
19	3784	36	19	18.0
20	3885	35	35	35.0
21	4330	32	24	16.0
22	1444	31	31	31.0
23	1764	27	15	13.5
24	1825	24	24	24.0
25	2164	24	14	12.0
26	2357	24	24	24.0
27	2346	23	23	23.0
28	2978	22	22	22.0
29	2345	22	22	22.0
30	3862	21	21	21.0
31	1763	21	21	21.0
32	3792	20	20	20.0
33	4329	16	16	16.0
34	1723	16	10	8.0
35	1182	15	15	15.0
36	4500	14	14	14.0
37	4455	14	14	14.0
38	1785	14	8	7.0
39	2353	14	14	14.0
40	4356	12	12	12.0
41	1737	12	12	12.0
42	4402	12	12	12.0
43	3330	12	12	12.0
44	4809	12	12	12.0
45	4231	10	10	10.0
46	4331	10	10	10.0
47	4522	8	8	8.0
48	2001	8	8	8.0
49	4600	8	8	8.0
50	2560	8	8	8.0
51	3397	8	8	8.0
52	2838	6	6	6.0
53	1178	6	6	6.0
54	4154	6	6	6.0
55	2167	6	6	6.0
56	1827	6	6	6.0
57	3764	4	4	4.0
58	2874	4	4	4.0
59	3973	4	4	4.0
60	4404	2	2	2.0
61	2902	2	2	2.0

KS:


Rank    Team  Points   Max    Average
1	935	60	33	30.0
2	1108	42	42	42.0
3	2410	36	26	18.0
4	938	27	19	13.5
5	3172	26	26	26.0
6	1982	23	23	23.0
7	1810	23	23	23.0
8	1448	20	20	20.0
9	1710	18	18	18.0
10	2335	12	12	12.0
11	3485	10	10	10.0
12	1984	8	8	8.0
13	1847	6	6	6.0
14	3798	6	6	6.0
15	1769	6	6	6.0
16	1997	6	6	6.0
17	937	6	6	6.0
18	1777	6	6	6.0
19	1994	4	4	4.0
20	1802	2	2	2.0

CalTran · April 10, 2013, 11:48pm

WOHOO 3RD RANKED ROBOT IN KANSAS!

Tommy_F · April 11, 2013, 12:06am

3528 won EI at Razorback last weekend, not Crossroads.

Thanks for doing these rankings. I realize they’re a lot of work and are time consuming, so for that, you are awesome.

Jaxom · April 11, 2013, 11:12pm

Thanks. I messed up adding 1288’s wildcard. :o Fixed

It was fun, and really wasn’t that hard. Unfortunately, a side effect was pointing out to me just how far we are from being able to go to Districts. There’s just too much space between the teams, and not enough of us.

Joe_Ross · April 11, 2013, 11:39pm

80 teams in Kansas and Missouri should be enough. Assuming growth next year, you’d want 5 events. Looking at Where in the World is FIRST, you’d want 2 in the Kansas City area, 2 in the St Louis area and 1 somewhere in between (Maybe Jefferson City).There’s be a lot of duplicates between the Kansas City events and the St Louis events, but some teams will want to travel, and provide mixing of the regions.

Mongai · April 11, 2013, 11:51pm

Despite BEST’s presence in Wichita, seeing FIRST in Wichita would be really fun. We are the closest FRC team to Wichita.

holygrail · April 12, 2013, 8:58am

Columbia or Lawrence would probably be a better bet than Jefferson City. That way you have MU and KU to offer up space and volunteers. Plus, college towns are fun.

vhcook · April 12, 2013, 10:23am

Or Springfield might be kinder to the teams in the southern part of the state. Also a college town…

Jaxom · April 12, 2013, 12:33pm

Or even Rolla, which has the Missouri University of Science & Technology. Hopefully between students & an Army base they could come up with enough volunteers.

What do we do with the Illinois teams that traditionally come to STL? We’d also miss the periodic visits of the Iowa, Arkansas, and Oklahoma teams that come to GKC. Something else to address.

Richard_Wallace · April 12, 2013, 12:44pm

Add southern Illinois to the KSMO district system! Say all the teams from Springfield IL on down.

Also include Iowa and Arkansas. Not sure about OK, they might want to join a Southwestern district system (i.e., Texas, Louisiana, etc.) instead.

All this speculation highlights your main point – the teams are spread thin geographically. A strong district system should have at least five events, but more would be better. One event per twenty teams fits the FiM model, which is working well up here and in MAR right now.

All this speculation makes me miss my old team, and my old planning committee, back in St. Louis. Fun times ahead for you folks, I wish I could be there.