Most FIRST teams per capita

I while ago, I was curious about which state really has the most FRC teams per capita. We all know California, Michigan, and New York all have tons of teams, but who really has the most? Before we all go wild trying to create new teams for Dean’s homework, we must first know where to create them. So, here is a list of all 50 states + Puerto Rico + Washington D.C. with the teams per capita. (I used 2004 (http://www.census.gov/) for state populations)

Ranked in order from most teams per capita to least:

Ranking / State / Teams Per Capita (in thousands)*

  1. New Hampshire - 54.1
  2. North Dakota - 105. 7
  3. Michigan - 108.7
  4. Connecticut - 125.1
  5. Virginia - 135.6
  6. Alaska - 163.9
  7. Washington D.C. - 177.8
  8. South Carolina - 182.5
  9. Montana - 185.4
  10. New Jersey - 189.1
  11. Colorado - 209.2
  12. New York - 216.0
  13. Massachusetts - 221.3
  14. Kansas - 248.7
  15. Oregon - 256.8
  16. South Dakota - 256.9
  17. Nevada - 291.9
  18. Indiana - 297.0
  19. Pennsylvania - 302.6
  20. Hawaii - 315.7
  21. Maine - 329.3
  22. Arizona - 337.9
  23. Ohio - 347.2
  24. Rhode Island - 360.2
  25. California - 362.6
  26. Wisconsin - 367.3
  27. Georgia - 367.9
  28. Maryland - 397.0
  29. Florida - 404.6
  30. Missouri - 411.0
  31. Washington - 413.6
  32. Delaware - 415.2
  33. Wyoming - 506.5
  34. Mississippi - 580.6
  35. West Virginia - 605.2
  36. Vermont - 621.4
  37. Idaho - 696.6
  38. Oklahoma - 704.7
  39. Alabama - 755.0
    NATIONAL AVERAGE: 770.7
  40. Texas - 803.2
  41. Louisiana - 903.2
  42. New Mexico - 951.6
  43. Illinois - 978.0
  44. North Carolina - 1067.7
  45. Arkansas - 1376.3
  46. Iowa - 1477.2
  47. Utah - 2389.0
  48. Tennessee - 2950.5
  49. Puerto Rico - 3894.9
  50. Kentucky - 4145.9
  51. Minnesota - 5101.0
  52. Nebraska - has no teams

*The teams per capita represents the number of people in each state/area per each FIRST team.

**What this data means: **
The higher a particular state is on the list, the more teams is has, per its population. The lower a particular state is on this list, is the less teams per capita it has. These are the states where we should be trying hard to get new FIRST teams. Although it is great that states like California have almost a hundred teams, or New Hampshire to have to most teams per capita, it is states like Minnesota and Nebraska that need more teams.

**FYI: If every state had as many teams per capita as New Hampshire does, then the number of FRC teams would jump five-fold; there would be 5497 teams in the United States! **

Kudos to the top states on a job well done for spreading FIRST! For all the rest - what are ya waiting for? Let’s do our homework and spread FIRST! :cool:

This is a very interesting list.

Someone needs to start a Nebraskan team. Maybe we need to start hunting down volunteers for that… :wink:

Wow, someone needs to start a Nebraska team! And yay for NJ being #10. That’s not too bad :slight_smile:

Anyone want to create a similar list for Canadian Provinces?

World Countries?

:slight_smile:

WOOHOO!! WE’RE NOT DEAD LAST IN SOMETHING!!!

(I’m sorry, I had to gloat for a minute. Usually when South Carolina isn’t in dead last for something, it’s because we’re at the top of some bad list. So hearing that we’re one of the top ten when it comes to FIRST teams per capita, I get the warm-fuzzies.)

Florida is above average in something!! wow! weeeee yay for us and south carolina!!

well okies so we are good at somethings in this state still can’t vote right and bad in education but that’s okay!!

this is a cool listing of info though!! thanks for providing it…

New Hampshire.

Number one in more then just the national primary!

Live free or die,
Andy A.

By request, here is the rest of the FIRST World:

Ranking / Providence/Country / Teams per Capita (in thousands)

CANADA:

  1. Ontario - 203.8
    Canada Average - 537.8
  2. New Brunswick - 729.5
  3. British Columbia - 2050.0
  4. Alberta - 2974.8
  5. Quebec - 7237.5
  6. Newfoundland - zero teams
  7. Prince Edward Island - zero teams
  8. Nova Scotia - zero teams
  9. Manitoba - zero teams
  10. Saskatchewan - zero teams
  11. Yukon* - zero teams
  12. Northwest Territories* - zero teams
  13. Nunavut* - zero teams

*Each of these providences have a population less than 40,000.

WORLD:

  1. Israel - 523.1
  2. Canada - 537.8
  3. United States - 770.7
  4. Ecuador - 6681.9
  5. United Kingdom - 30,220.7
  6. Brazil - 31,018.8
  7. Mexico - 53,101.5

Wow, that was fast.

Thank you :slight_smile:

This is a great list.

For clarity, though, you have provided a list of capita per team, not teams per capita. If I understand, you divided the population by the number of teams (population / # of teams).

Teams per capita would be # of teams / polulation.

(Don’t like to be picky, but you would lose some points on a math or stats test. :slight_smile: )

Way to go Mississippi big 34 baby.
That number suprised me I thought it would be lower with only 5 Teams.

This is some pretty interesting data. NH representin’!!! :wink: I was kinda surprised to see NH on the top of the list but it makes sense we’re a small state with lots of teams so…go NH. I think this thread makes some good points particularly that it wouldn’t hurt the community to get smart about creating teams this post certainly helps. Dean just keeps saying more teams more teams more teams but what this thread makes clear is what does that mean?? If the goal of FIRST is to reach as many kids as possible then it doesn’t matter if we create 500 more teams in CA or Michigan, that’s important certainly, but there are a lot of kids in some of the states on the bottom of the list missing out. I know that when I look back on my HS FIRST career and think about the reasons why I stay close to the program even now is that when I was on a team in HS it was probably one of the best experiences of my life. I think we could all agree that it is important that as many kids as possible get to experience that.

Justin

It’s good to see CT (da CUTT or something of that nature) ranked high in a list besides the “Cost of living” one…

-Alex Pelan is extremely glad he doesn’t have to pay taxes.

We are currently working on getting Lincoln High School in Lincoln Nebraska into FIRST. I think there are several other teams looking for to start Nebraska teams… who knows maybe they will start several next year… I am considering visiting lincoln high this summer as my uncle manages the u of nebraska bookstore. If I do take the the trip I will try and meet with the principal about FIRST, and if we have our VEX robot buy then, take that with me to show him what its all about. So there is some work being done, and I have heard some other teams mention possible work so lets get our 50th state to join FIRST and then look beyond into countries all over this world.

Nate

You may wish to look at the other thread started last fall concerning number of teams per square mile. I think Connecticut ranked near the top in that listing as well. Sustaining teams becomes an issue when you have a high number of teams in a small geographical area, all competing for the same funding and mentorship. Even simple things like trying to reserve flights for groups out of the same airport on the same days to go to Atlanta become potential problems!

Aw, heck, I don’t really care much about this, but teams per unit of area is a pretty poor metric. New York City or LA/Orange County could have ten times the teams per unit area of Alaska and still have an infinitely easier time finding resources. The most useful measure would probably be some measure of economic strength divided by number of teams. Connecticut, for example, has a much larger economy than Montana, which is about a zillion times larger geographically.

I’ll leave the details as an exercise for the students. :]

As for airport scheduling, the larger the economic base, the better served you will be for airports. In Connecticut, this might be a problem if you are all trying to fly out of Hartford, but you could always fly out of La Guardia or JFK, or even Logan.

At least you have major airports handy. Consider the plight of teams in places like Bellingham, Washington, Coos Bay, Oregon, or Red Bluff, California. All of them have to schedule trips just to get to an airport capable of getting a connection through to Atlanta. (Yes, I know. Coos Bay has an airport. To fly to Atlanta they would fly to Portland, and then take a plane which would probably have to make a stop along the way. It’s probably a 12-hour trip. I don’t think there is a place in New England where a major airport takes longer to get to than driving from Bellingham to SeaTac. You easterners just don’t understand distance…) (To not just beat a dead horse, but to beat it and then blow it up – there are also a lot more choices for flights from major airports than small ones. There might only be one team in Helena, Montana, as a made-up example, but there might only be two flights a day out of there to a hub with connections to Atlanta.)

True, true. But contrary to what some people believe, many CT teams are located in rural areas (yes we have them) and the ones in urban areas ARE competing for the same dollars and mentors. Ask any of the several teams in the state who are scrambling to stay alive. (Does everyone in the country think Connecticut is full of millionaires? I’ve lived here for over 30 years and haven’t met one yet - where are they hiding? :slight_smile: )

As for airport scheduling, the larger the economic base, the better served you will be for airports. In Connecticut, this might be a problem if you are all trying to fly out of Hartford, but you could always fly out of La Guardia or JFK, or even Logan.
Yes, we have access to nearby major airports, but that would necessitate another $1200 or more spent on bus transfers. Because there are only a few flights that directly fly to Atlanta from Hartford each day (it’s weird), it means they book up very quickly and cannot accomodate groups. So we fly to Chicago or Detroit, then to Atlanta. Expensive and it takes a while - we were at the airport at 6:30 a.m. and arrived at the hotel after 5:30p.m. Or we fly a day ahead and come home a day late - more hotel costs, food costs, more school boards to approve the trip, etc. Or we split up the group. We never thought flying to Atlanta would be so expensive and so difficult.

I guess the bottom line is that there are difficulties encountered no matter if you are in a small state (geographical or population) or a large one.

I was thinking about setting the number of teams in a state vs. certain NAICS or SIC code percentages within the state (NAICS= North American Industry Classification System, SIC = Standard Industrial Classification, both define all industry types into numerical code)…but I couldnt decide on which code to use.

Haha, California is smack in the middle! :slight_smile:

Ranking / State / Teams Per Capita* (in thousands)

  1. New Hampshire - 54.1
  2. North Dakota - 105. 7
  3. Michigan - 108.7
  4. Connecticut - 125.1
  5. Virginia - 135.6
  6. Alaska - 163.9
  7. Washington D.C. - 177.8
  8. South Carolina - 182.5
  9. Montana - 185.4
  10. New Jersey - 189.1
  11. Colorado - 209.2
  12. New York - 216.0
  13. Massachusetts - 221.3
  14. Kansas - 248.7
  15. Oregon - 256.8
  16. South Dakota - 256.9
  17. Nevada - 291.9
  18. Indiana - 297.0
  19. Pennsylvania - 302.6
  20. Hawaii - 315.7
  21. Maine - 329.3
  22. Arizona - 337.9
  23. Ohio - 347.2
  24. Rhode Island - 360.2
  25. California - 362.6
  26. Wisconsin - 367.3
  27. Georgia - 367.9
  28. Maryland - 397.0
  29. Florida - 404.6
  30. Missouri - 411.0
  31. Washington - 413.6
  32. Delaware - 415.2
  33. Wyoming - 506.5
  34. Mississippi - 580.6
  35. West Virginia - 605.2
  36. Vermont - 621.4
  37. Idaho - 696.6
  38. Oklahoma - 704.7
  39. Alabama - 755.0
    NATIONAL AVERAGE: 770.7
  40. Texas - 803.2
  41. Louisiana - 903.2
  42. New Mexico - 951.6
  43. Illinois - 978.0

44. Iowa - 981.4

  1. North Carolina - 1067.7
  2. Arkansas - 1376.3
  3. Utah - 2389.0
  4. Tennessee - 2950.5
  5. Puerto Rico - 3894.9
  6. Kentucky - 4145.9
  7. Minnesota - 5101.0
  8. Nebraska - has no teams

2,954,451 people/ ( 3 teams ) = 981354

Sticking up for Iowa!