Net capacity - algae bouncing

Has anyone been able to test, with a fully built barge and net, how many algae you can reliably shoot before algae begin to bounce out? Or know of any teams that have the capability to and would be willing to share the results?

I know the theoretical limit is more than enough to fit all available algae, but with the net being more absorbent than say the 2022 Hub, I was wondering if there was a point where placing algae gingerly becomes more effective than attempting to shoot.

I understand many teams may not have a fully built field piece or have all algae yet, so this thread may be a week too early.

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Our net arrived yesterday and we are building the field on Saturday. But even then I won’t be able to answer this question because we are building a barge based on the team element plans that is about half the length of the one on the full field.

Related thread:

We were able to get 9 in the net from the human player without much difficulty. We probably could do a few more but didn’t have more inflated. I think what worked best was tossing the algae closer to the center of the field when the net was empty and aiming closer as it gets more full.

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Just from a mathematical perspective, the net is almost exactly the width on 9 algae- likely an intentional decision given how many algae start on each side.

We’re still waiting on the net and balls, but our wooden barge with scrap net will happily hold two algae side-by-side. Curious how it all works with the truss directly under the net and all of the zip ties holding its shape…

We built the field element Barge/Net as well. Be careful - on the real field element, there is a beam just below the net that is not present at all on the Field Element. In the Field Tour video, it appears that the Algae can bounce off that beam when balls on thrown in. That is significantly different than the Algae landing softly in the net only.

We’re brainstorming how to add a beam to be more realistic so thought I’d mention it!

Field Tour Link
Screenshot below

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Another screenshot that might illustrate what I mean more.

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I’m considering adding a strip of hardboard inside the net. Easy to implement and would be a lot closer to the real thing.

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What if you shot with a robot? With a HP you might be able to more easily control the shot, but with a robot maybe the dispersion is more random so they tend to bounce out more? Or less?

We do not have a robot that will shoot the algae and at this point are not planning to implement that strategy.

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Video

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This is awesome can we get more video of you filling it?

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Sure!

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Is the shooter putting backspin on each shot. I am having a hard time seeing the spin before the shot lands. And thank you, this is hugely helpful.

I think I’m doing more of a hand on either side of the ball frog leg motion. Not sure there is much imparted spin

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Thank you for getting these out, I know a lot of teams have been waiting on these videos. If you’re willing to make more from a wider angle that show the tosses as well that would be great and I’m sure people will watch and appreciate them.

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Yes this is amazing I would watch hundreds of these shots, no pressure :stuck_out_tongue:

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Will you end up doing a video with 18 so we can see what that would look like

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Were these tests done at 16in inflation or 16.25? And on what type of algae

The wide angle version.
One of our balls got stolen for prototyping.

Probably not, we’re trying to ration our game pieces for the season.

All ours are the clamshell at 16" or so.

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