New District Events for 2013?


#127

**Um, that would be you. ** If you want it to happen, make it happen. The rest of us are busy doing OUR own stuff, thanks.

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#128

IIRC, the proposal of a HI/CA district would involve two district events in HI to ensure that they wouldn’t all have to travel mainland; this makes the only issue in the region championship.

I think the big thing is that FIRST NEEDS to keep some places out of the district system in order to sustain international growth in places where there just aren’t enough teams to have a system in place. Regionals like NYC, LA, and others that are filled with international teams need to stay in place. Also, they need to make the barriers moreso regional than “State XXXX, State XXXX, and parts of State XXXX”, or if that is done, they need to allow for a circumstantial opt-out, in which a team can put in a request to opt out of the district system. This comes to my mind based off teams in the western half of Canada, because (with my extreme lack of knowledge in Canadian geography…) it seems like a lot of Canada is densely populated in the eastern half near Toronto. A district system that encompasses all of Canada would just hurt teams that go to regionals moreso on the western half of North America.


#129

I know that, I was just kidding. My sense of humor doesn’t translate well to pure text, so I apologize.


#130

Western Canada is being talked about for a Pacific Northwest area–Alaska, Washington, Oregon, Idaho, and possibly part or all of Montana (and I already made my comments on which would probably be preferred), plus western Canada, instead of putting western Canada with Toronto.

I think the request to opt out, or more likely a request for another district assignment (e.g. New England instead of New York or Wisconsin instead of Michigan) is a really good way to go.

I’ve also already addressed the international/sparse area question. For these areas, there are a couple of options. Either you include them in the district that they usually end up in anyway (meaning they stay in the States for a week and a half, or go home and come back) or you give them a single event qualifying method. Or you let them go to any two district events, regardless of qualification area.

Oh, and BTW: Los Angeles is not “filled with international teams”. This year, 66 teams attended. Brazil: 1. Chile: 1. That’s 3%. Another team came from Nevada. Grand total 4.5% of teams were from out of state; most if not all of the rest were from Southern CA (AKA, half a state). That’s pretty typical–you might get up to half a dozen out of state teams. Oh, and another regional is going to be added in the area. If that’s not an argument to turn the L.A. Regional into a district system, I don’t know what is! That said, I would not object to allowing international teams to play–the Chilean team’s “home” regional is Los Angeles. But then you get back to the international travel dilemma.


#131

Ah, I see about LA. I was moreso saying that because I’ve read prior something about how since NYC and LA are such major cities, teams go there due to flight arrangements and all that stuff.


#132

Correct :smiley:


#133

My apologies, I was referring to dodar’s statement in which I thought “It could work with Cali if they scheduled it correctly and limited the number of slots with the corresponding inland regional that would make teams have to go out to Hawaii to compete.” meant that HI/CA teams would be forced into traveling for districts. (I personally am skeptical of compelling more travel than geographically necessary.) My proposal for HI did indeed include 2 district-type events.

Definitely. Though if FIRST is willing to split Pennsylvania for the district model, one would hope they’d readily split Canada at least once. I suspect few people would support Canada as a single district any more than making any other ~3,511,023mi² plot of land a single district.


#134

Where?


#135

Please, please force us to attend The Hawaii Regional! Aloha!
Next year?? Hawaii, Spokane or Davis, and St. Louis. Sounds good to me.
Good luck to all 400 FRC teams this week @ Worlds. Sincerely, First Team 701.


#136

The Greater Kansas City Regional would be glad to have the Chilean team attend if southern California goes to a district format.


#137

As a member of the Alberta Tech Alliance, I think it’s safe for me to explain our plans and achievements regarding a new regional event.

If you are not aware, there are about 60 teams in eastern Canada (Ontario region). There is a fairly strong FIRST community there, with several regional events. However, in western Canada, it is a different story. Our team, 4334, is one of two teams west of the east/west divide. Because there are so few teams, there is hardly any FIRST community. Nobody knows what we do, why we do it, etc.

Being one of two teams in an extremely large area is hard for a couple reasons. One, sponsorship is hard to find. Especially being a rookie team. Nobody wants to be the first to sponsor us. Also, it makes attending a regional event very, very difficult. In the 2012 season, all the regional events closer to us filled up very quickly. The closest event to us was Toronto. Now, I don’t know if you’re familiar with Canadian geography, but it is reaaaally far. And strangely enough, flying there is super expensive. We’re lucky to have super supportive parents, and they all wound up paying airfare for us to attend GTR East. Frustrated, we started looking into hosting our own regional event. We talked it over with FIRST Canada, and they gave us the green light. Then at the championship, a meeting with the board was held regarding a new regional event. It was approved.

So, circumstances permitting, there will be a Calgary regional next year. You may be wondering how, being as there is only 2 teams… The Alberta Tech Alliance is working on building curriculum that we can take into Calgary and area schools, and making it as easy as possible for schools to have FRC teams. The Calgary Catholic School District has already approved $10,000 in sponsorship to every FRC team in one of it’s schools. We also are working to use an unused school property as a communal build site, where teams can share expertise, parts, tools, a facility, and perhaps most importantly, rent.

The real question is, can we get 30 teams?

Time will tell.


#138

If you don’t have 30, call south of the border and see if some of the Washington, Oregon, and Idaho teams will agree to come up. (And maybe a couple of Canadian powerhouses will show up.)

You’ve got a year, you’ve got motivation, you’ve got local assistance, you’ve got a Championship blue banner for the Archimedes division to get sponsors with. I think you can get pretty close to the required number.


#139

$10,000 dollars O.o starting a team will be easy! why cant I live in Canada D:

if my local teams have the money I’ll make sure they go to your regional.
(30 team regional sounds fun all the ones here have been to big for to long)


#140

Just curious,
was this announcement supposed to made yet being that the regional doesnt seem to be finalized as of yet?

Since you brought it up, “The real question is, can you get 29 teams?” :wink:


#141

It is amazing what your team is doing. Only a rookie and you have already put things in motion for a regional, that is astounding.


#142

Well… There was a meeting recently regarding the regional. There is a very small chance it won’t happen at this point.

I like only having to find/start 29 teams. :wink:


#143

This sounds like it could be awesome! I will talk to my team about it. Calgary is pretty far away from seattle, but depending on how many regionals we attend, it might be viable.


#144

I’m wondering if anything will be announced to the RDs at their meeting this week in Manchester.


#145

It’s safe to say Minnesota will not go districts this year as at the state championships it was confirmed that the Lake Superior regional in Duluth, MN will become a double regional. I think it’s a bad move considering the size of the DECC (convention center), but I’m going to trust in the regional staff to make it all work out.


#146

Have you seen the AMSOIL Areana? I am assuming that is where the second regional will be taking place, I think it will be awesome! So we still have the first regional in the DECC and the second one in AMSOIL arena. After the annoucement was made I was looking up some specs on each area and I am surprised we haven’t been in AMSOIL in the past as it appears to have much better ammenities.

Also it may have been announced as a Duluth double regional but the RD still had their after-season meeting at FIRST HQ. I wouldn’t consider MN Districts out of the question but there is less of a chance that they will happen now.

I’m sure the year we get a Rochester regional we’ll turn into a district.

Side note: From what I hear the DECC was not damaged from the flashfloods a few weeks ago.