So, FIRST has finally got the [circle] R on the logo and is a little different looking too. So what do you think? Old logo vs. New logo?
[old logo]------>http://www.indianafirst.org/images/index/fr_logo.gif [new logo]-------> http://www.usfirst.org/images/fr_logo.gif
Can there be a category on the poll for “I can’t tell the difference”?
New one’s perrty.
Where’s the ‘I can’t notice a difference’ option? 
Personally, they are both great, even though I notice NO difference. Now someone just needs to hook me up with the new logo in high quality psd, png, and fla format! 
The Z-axis of the triangle and square are shaded. Different sizings. Mainly the same…
Meh. If I glanced at it I wouldn’t be able to tell the difference.
To me, in the new logo it looks like the triangle and the square are less rigid to their places around the circle then they are in the old one because of the change of shading.
But other than that, it’s nothing huge, and since I like the logo I guess thats a good thing 
Note: As long as we never ever go back to “Tropical FIRST” (the colors on the 2001 crew shirts) I’ll be happy.
the old logo has an sm which is registered as a selling mark, thats why thats on the merchindise, while the new one, has the r in a circle which represents a registered trademark, which means you cant use it to gain anything without legal consent from the owner…
new one. Matches high-res version.
(The big dif I think is the new is a little brighter/lighter)
The new one seems a bit more bubblier?? … little more fun, modernish, brighter I think. It’s the FIRST logo, it’s just cute and cool no matter what!
new…old…new…old…new…old…
oh oh which one was the new one again?
Well, you guess!
PS- the old logo was copied from a 2000 document.
People people people. Of all of us I am supposed to have the least talent in regard to art. But even I can tell the difference.
If you look closely, in the old logo, on the left side of the triangle facing upward and the 2 sides inside the triangle, and the sides of the square facing downward, they are white. In the new logo, the whole triangle is red, and the whole square is blue.
The new one seems a little bit off-level to me. It could just be because it has a bigger triangle and square in it. But if you ask me, I like the old one better. However, I do like the new one better than the one they had displayed during kickoff this year, with the white highlights everywhere on the triangle and square.
True, but if they weren’t side by side or if I had glanced at them quickly I wouldn’t have seen the difference. At least they didn’t completely change the logo. To do a major change on the logo at this point I think FIRST would lose some of it’s reconition if people didn’t connect the new logo to FIRST. Could you imagine what would happen if Chevy decided to get rid of the “bowtie” tommorrow!? :ahh: I’m just glad FIRST didn’t change the logo altogether or do a major modification to it.
Say, I know there is a high-res version of the new logo on-line, the problem is I can’t find it! can some one help me out?
Never mind. http://www.usfirst.org/4vol/resourcectr/graphics/
it is the same its just had a facelift. but realy, Who cares First Is First
On the old one, the blue seems a bit too dark. On the new one, the red seems a slight bit too light. Adjusting the red to the old shade, I like the new logo.
There isn’t a realistic difference.
All I know is that I can’t sell next year’s robot without permission from Dean Kamen. :yikes:
jk, you know i wouldn’t do that!!
I like the new one. However, I do like the fancy ones they make occasionally much better (I’ve seen it used a few years ago… as well as Rob said with this year’s kickoff… I wish they would do something like that…) My guess for why they don’t use the fancy one as the “Official” one is because it costs more money for the shadow and gradients when printing stuff out… plus doesn’t go well into greyscale for printing in that form.
The SM stands for service mark. It is a type of trademark that indicates the source of the service and to distinguish it from the services of others. A service mark is the same as a trademark except that it identifies and distinguishes the source of a service rather than a product. The R means that the trademark is registered (with the US Patent and Trademark Office). It isn’t necessary to register a trademark but it does give you more legal protection both in this country, and more importantly, overseas.
maybe this is a good time to remind everyone one what can and cant be done to the logo.
“Please note that the FIRST logo is a registered trademark with the United States Patent and Trademark Office. Trademark protection does not allow the logo/trademark to be altered, cut apart, or separated in any way. The logo may be resized, but must maintain the same proportions. The background color may be changed (for example, to incorporate the logo on a website with a background color other than white or to match the color of an article of clothing).”
