Onshape Educator Plan: What it Means for FRC Teams

I just upgraded our main teaching account to Educator and it says valid until December 29. Is this supposed to be like that?

Items are things that you can add to your Bill of Materials but that you don’t want to model, so things like glue or zipties. Not sure how useful this is for us. Also, I’m not sure what you mean by libraries - do you mean material libraries?

Yes, it’s meant for auto-numbering parts and assemblies when using Release Management. Release Management is powerful, but I worry that it’s more complicated than helpful for a majority of FRC teams. I’ll probably stick with the auto-numbering featurescripts myself. If someone is able to get release management and auto-numbering working well for their team, I’d love to see it!

Users don’t have the ability to downgrade, but I can downgrade you. DM me the email so I don’t downgrade the wrong one :slight_smile:

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Hmm, nope. The educator plan isn’t supposed to expire. We’ll look at this first-thing Monday morning. I suspect that the accounts won’t expire and the displayed period of time is incorrect. Thanks for pointing this out!

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I’ve noticed the same problem. Here’s a sub-folder, and I don’t have the ability to share it
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Moving that subfolder into the main classroom folder, I can now share it
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And the sharing settings persist even if I move it back into the sub-folder

You can see what I mean by “library” at the bottom of the menu in the second screenshot. The options are “My frame profiles” or “FRC Team 5987 frame profiles”. I don’t remember that being there before the upgrade to Educator

Thanks for the clarifications. Subfolders cannot have their own sharing permissions and inherit their sharing permissions for the top-level folder they are in, so a “Share” option won’t appear on those folders. When you move it to be a top-level folder, it can then have sharing permissions applied. When you move it back to being a subfolder, it will drop any share permissions it had and re-inherit the permissions of the top-level folder. Where this gets pretty confusing is that a document, regardless of what level it’s at, can have it’s own sharing permissions. This is why in the Share dialog, permissions that are given based on the folder have a folder icon, while document-based permissions have no icon:

Gotcha, this is a great question. This is how you can create a set of custom profiles for use with the Frames featureset. You can make a document, name each Part Studio after a specific profile (say 25mm x 50mm x 3mm Wall), and then draw that profile as a sketch. Throw it into a folder and set that folder as a frames library and it’ll then show up as an option in the Frames feature. While this is cool for professional companies, I don’t think anything beats the Extrude Individual / Tube Converter workflow we have for FRC.

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Thanks for the clarification. That’s a shame, as our current workflow has basically everything in subfolders. Maybe we’ll have to refactor a bit.

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Our Onshape team area is a mess because of individual document ownership limitations. Seems like this will solve that - thank you!

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Upon creating a classroom, will everyone in the classroom have their Onshape subscription level set to “Educator” or is that just for admins in the classroom?

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Yes, you’ll also be set to “Educator” - you can see what subscription you’re on in the bottom left corner of your Documents page. If you’re removed from a classroom, you’ll be set back on the Student plan.

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In our current Onshape Team we have a bunch of documents owned by graduated students’ accounts tied to student email addresses that no longer exist. I perceive there is nothing that can be done with these docs other than copying the ones we want to keep to the Team account and (eventually) removing the defunct accounts so the disorganized docs go away. It’s something we know we can do but haven’t spent the time to do yet.

It seems like we’ll still need to do that for the old stuff falling into that scenario (right?), but at least moving forward there will be the concept of team ownership of documents, so the docs can be managed centrally rather than individually.

The old Team will still be there, right? So we could just leave that alone, disorganized as it is, and start fresh with the new classroom, and probably (over a period of time) just copy over the files from the past that we care about. Safe to assume this will work OK (i.e. the Team won’t go away)? Thanks.

Is there a way to transfer ownership of the classroom?

I submitted a support ticket for this but I accidently upgraded my personal account to Educator instead of the team account (oops, sorry). I tried to fix it by adding the team account to the classroom but I can’t transfers ownership.

If there’s a quick way to transfer without Onshape Support that’d be neat but otherwise I’ll just wait on my support ticket.

Sorry and thanks!

(If you’re wondering for YPP DM purposes, yes I’m a student so I’m happy to wait on the support ticket if this isn’t something I can fix from my side. And I clarified it in my support ticket, but I got mentor approval to upgrade the team account, just … accidentally did the wrong account :sob:.)

Although the school emails have been deleted, the Onshape accounts will still work as long as students remember their passwords - if you want to track them down, they can transfer ownership to you or someone else who can then pass it to the Classroom. Not a fun process, so copying them like you suggested is probably a lot easier.

Yup, nothing will change with your existing documents you own, that have been shared with you, or teams you’re in. This just adds a new separate space (the Classroom) that can own documents. If there’s nothing you really need from past years and designs, starting fresh with the Classroom and only moving stuff over as you need it is a great solution.

There is not a way to transfer ownership of a Classroom right now. We can do it on our end, but it’s a lil’ bit of a process.

In this case, I wouldn’t worry about it a ton. You can change the name of the classroom from the team-related name it is now to something like “My Name’s Personal Space” and then have the team account upgrade and take that team-related name you wanted. Your personal account will then be in two Classrooms, but you can just not use that personal one and nothing will happen.

If you still really want it deleted, we can do that, but you’ve got nothing to worry about.

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Did I miss it or is the CAM update not here yet?

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Classroom’s look like a great option relative to teams for file ownership management, awesome work over at Onshape across the board.

The only thing I’m concerned about is moving the 40+ students in our existing team over to the classroom, and than communicating that change. Is there any easier way to “convert” a team to a classroom, where everyone would get moved over and the perms (admin, member) could be transferred?

If not I’ll just spend the 20 minutes copying and pasting emails lol. No biggie, totally worth it!

No, there’s not a way to convert an existing team into a Classroom or easily dupe the user list. I’ll look and see if something like that (or a .csv management) is on our roadmap, as it would be a great feature.

Copying the user info that’s in the Teams list and pasting it into Excel would make the process of getting those same accounts in to the Classroom somewhat easier. Tedious, but hopefully not too time-consuming?

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Not sure if this is the place to ask, but:
With FIRST’s partnership with Hack Club paving the way for more students to get involved with PCB design, has Onshape considered adding PCB studio access to their educator accounts? If not for all educator accounts, would they consider adding a “1 year trial” to the kit of parts to allow students to explore your software?
Onshape’s version control management is absolutely gorgeous, and I would love to see how we could integrate it with our PCB design process.

I did the Excel route. Select all of the team info, copy and paste it into an Excel/google sheet, delete unnecessary rows, copy all of the emails, and you can paste them in a single go into the “add members” box, and they’ll all be added. It’s a little bit annoying, but it could be much worse.

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Not here yet, “soon”… CAM Studio | Onshape

We’ve talked about it but aren’t sure what the level of demand would be. Onshape’s PCB Studio isn’t a replacement for an ECAD software like Eagle, KiCad, or the Altium offerings - this is just a way to translate accurately from the ECAD designs into and back out of Onshape. The help documentation here does a way better job of explaining it than I can. If this still seems useful to make it easier to design around your custom PCBs, I can bring it back up with the team and see what we can do.

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