Palmetto Regional

First of all I want to thank all the teams for making my job as announcer so easy. When there are good robots being supported by gracious teams, it is easy to be able to say something good about everybody. Combine the awesome play and competitive action, and it adds up to the best regional anyplace.

There were some remarks earlier on the forum by people viewing the webcast about the refs blowing calls or changing scores. That is not true. I was present at the scoring table at the end of every match when Terrell checked in and the scores were tallied. There were a few cases where the scores were posted and announced before the distant refs came to the table with penalties. Also, most of Friday, the computer was not displaying the correct numbers at the bottom. When the announced scores were not the final scores, a second announcement was made; not a “changed” score, but the “correct” score.

One that was changed involved an arm from a robot on a ramp that was sticking over the front side of the field rail at the end of the game. The ref at that corner did not recognize it as “out of the endzone” when the score was posted. The Tyrell recognized the error and the score was adjusted downward.

Another score change resulted from a tube being thrown on the field during a field malfunction between autonomous and teleoperated mode. We had a 3 minute delay, all teams agreed to proceed rather than reset the field, and the refs ruled that the penalty would not be assessed due to the confusion.

The yellow card for Team 900 was not retracted. I announced that there was no penalty (meaning point deduction) for a yellow card, thus the score would not be changed. The warning stayed with them until all the qualifying matches were over.

There were 2 other matches in which team captains graciously and rightfully questioned a call and the call was reversed, and in at least one case, the opposing alliance agreed and supported the change.

And ask Flash (1319) about what constitutes “robot is supported” and interpretation of the rules. In an early elimination match, they preliminarily were not awarded 60 points because their arm (as the ramp robot) was touching the wall, but neither robot on top was touching. The refs went back and forth and read the rules and could only find a mention of loss of points if the “scoring” robots were “supported” by the playing field. The points were awarded because the elevated robots met the conditions of G56. There was nothing said about the ramp robot and contact with the field.

But then just 2 matches later, 1319’s ramp came down on a tube, compressing it about 2 inches. Chimera was on the ramp that was compressing the game piece and the points were not awarded because there was obviously a load (indicating support) on the compressed tube.

This ruling was consistent with all the other regionals.

<G56> ROBOTS in HOME ZONE - ROBOTS score bonus points at the end of the match if they are entirely in their HOME ZONE, not in contact with any element of the field (carpet, alliance station, goal, etc.), not supported by a GAME PIECE, and the lowest point of the ROBOT is higher than 4 inches and/or 12 inches above the carpeted field surface.

The refs at the Palmetto Regional made great calls while being presented with difficult rulings all weekend. After one of their rulings in the quarterfinals, I even ran up a hugged one (much to his confusion). But any way, all their rulings were fair and they should be praised for their work. The next time you want to yell at a ref, just remember, they are all volunteers and we are lucky to have such devoted people around us.

I totally agree with Chris.

1746 I was so happy hear we neighbor in the pits on Thursday and we had nothing to with switching you tools around. I love you Guys.

I also forget a HUGE thank you 34 for put up with all our crap on the way home LOL.
You never know the real meaning of a FIRST Competition until you have to ride back home with a team you just defend in a match. We had so much fun with you guys.

This is part of the reason that 1319 was so successful. Photo from a match Saturday morning.





Heh, I just had surgery today. Even though I am all doped up, I still can’t stop thinking about Saturday. What a blast! I can’t wait for nationals to start; I just love FIRST!

Yeah without doubt 1319 is one of the best ramp bots Ive seen so far, they just go to show how important ramp bots are in this years competiton. I would like to thank all the teams that mentioned us and our bot, we really thought that it was the best bot we’ve ever built. Too bad no ATL for us this year. Oh well, theres always another year!

Does any one have or know where I can find Palmetto Regional video? YouTube and NASA have nothing.

Color me interested as well–I want to analyze some of our matches, particularly the ones where something went screwy. I know 343 had their little TV/VCR combo at the AV rack, so that might be a starting point.

Just now safely got home from Palmetto. I had car trouble, and just left at 4:00 pm today. Big THANKS to Bilfred for putting me up this weeked…and putting up with me.

Off topic, but sorry, I am out of it. (dang surgery…)

I remember seeing you (or at least your cool hat) at the competition! You might remember me, too. I am the 832 driver with the old-school goggles and the fox tail. Our interaction was limited, however, since I don’t think our teams had a single match together. I really did not like the match setup algorithm at this regional. It’s not that I didn’t like the teams I ended up being paired up with over and over, it’s just that I would have liked more variety. There are quite a few bots that I never got to go against/with once.

Surgery eh? Well that’s a coincedence.

I just got out of surgery yesterday, but yet I can’t wait until championships either :smiley:

Thanks very much for the compliment. :slight_smile: You guys were tough opponents. Those last matches were exciting and really fun to watch. In the stands we were holding our breath until the outcome.

Thanks 832 and 342. We made a super alliance.:smiley:

And thank you 1319, for picking us! Hopefully we will have another chance to work together at the dome.

Unfortunately, we are in different divisions. We’re in Gallileo and you and 342 got into Archimedes. Best of luck to the both of you. Maybe we’ll meet in the middle to compete for the gold.

Sounds like a plan to me! :slight_smile:

Galileo is lucky. 832 and 342 will just have to survive without 1319. Thanks again and good luck to all

We had like 3 or 4 matches b4 eliminations with you guys i really liked your claw design

Ha ha yeah tough calls…We would of been 2nd seed but our match we thought we one was called a lost becasue when we went up on our ramp bot in the qualifying matches like one of the last ones i think we killed our rampbots ramp and when it collapsed it went outside of the size restriction so we got a penelty and they changed it and we dropped to 5th seed

Palmetto was great. Good matches, great fun, and a great new suction cup design (thanks Team Voltage (386)).

We certainly had a great conclusion to the competition, but seeing all those amazing robots (1251, 1626, 343, 832 (great to see you guys win it)) just to name a few, was really eye opening :yikes:

Hey guys, great job at Palmetto, I took the trip Saturday Morning, and it was well worth it. If you guys want some videos. I have Videos of 832’s matches from Saturday, unfortunately I do not have complete videos of the Final 3 three matches; my phone ran out of memory. I am trying to find someone on our team that had a good quality camera and took some nice videos.

http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=PhoenixDriver

You can either watch whatever or check out the playlists and check out each regional.