PCH District: Gainesville Predictions

Taking a look back…
Last year marked the beginning of a new era in Georgia FIRST: the district system allowed teams to make steady upgrades throughout the competitive season, improved the quality of play throughout the region, and developed a solid middle tier of competitive teams.

While there certainly were some bumpy times during the events, the system brought more events to the state and improved overall awareness of the region’s robotics programs. However, teams have a solid year of experience with the new system and we can honestly say that FIRST in Georgia has never been better.

Looking Forward…
FIRST Steamworks is an interesting game, one that has a lot of layers and presents quite a few strategic opportunities. While there are areas for specialization and focus, the real magic will come from robots that will diversify and improve as the game matures and the season goes on. However, it’s worth mentioning that the competitive floor for this year is a little higher than last year, where simply having a strong drivetrain could win you the event.

As such, we expect that Gainesville will be dominated by the gear and the climb. Teams have proven that it’s not difficult to put together a passive gear mechanism and the wonders of velcro have rendered the the climbing challenge all but trivial. As such, we expect a majority of winning alliances to not score a single ball.

We definitely expect to see shooters at Gainesville, but what they may not understand is that the game isn’t ready for them yet. When shooting teams realize that their 40 kPa production can easily be matched by 1 pre-provided gear by the opposing alliance, even the best shooters will shift their focus to gears for a majority of Gainesville.

The field…
With a better spread of event dates this year, every district has a good distribution with over 30 teams in attendance. With that being said, Gainesville’s relative proximity to the Atlanta metro area makes it a prime destination for top tier teams and sets the stage for one of the most competitive district events. Don’t believe us? Just take a look at these numbers:

Number of 2016 Event Winners: 9 (7 unique)
Number of 2016 Top Seeds: 4 (3 unique)
Number of Teams from the PCH Top 10 in OPR form 2016: 6
Number of Teams from the PCHQA Power Poll: 7

The contenders…
There’s no better place to get things started than 1261. The Robo Lions have consistently shown an ability to dominate on the field, winning both Albany and Kennesaw in 2016, and coming just short at District Champs as a finalist. Last year, they showed promise with a top level strategy and a rough-and-tumble drive team who pushed anyone in their way to the side. However, after both their driver and operator graduated, it’s up to a new class to fill those roles. From a robot perspective, 1261 features a turreted shooter with the goal of using their vision tracking to become a shooting powerhouse. Hoping to collect the 1RP for 40kPA every match, it would not surprise us at all to see them come in and shoot the lights out. However, 1261 also tends to start slow: they haven’t won a regional at their first event since 2014, and hadn’t converted before that. Their success at this event will be dependent on them starting hot.

Speaking of teams that start hot, **1648 **has done just that the past two years, winning both Georgia Southern Classic and being the first pick at Columbus and Albany last year. While they’re definitely on the rise, they’re also a team that has historically struggled to keep up with the evolving gameplay. However, this year’s robot features components to tackle aspects of the entire game, using a fixed hooded shooter to nail shots from both short and long distance. Like Robo Lions, G3’s success will dependent on starting fast out of the gate. However, they also need to find a way to sustain that success to see them bring home their third banner.

1746 has undergone significant change in recent years. As the lone representative from Georgia at IRI, they went from being a low goal bot with a climb (arguably the best robot in the state last year) to a high goal bot within a matter of days. And that high goal bot was no slouch: they nailed eight high goals from the batter and almost proved themselves worthy of eliminations. This year, they may have bit off a little more than they can chew. Their turreted shooter with one of the largest capacities in the state may be on the robot, but it may not be a featured part of their strategy. Instead, look for them to use their driving skills and strategy to rely on gears and climbing to return to the winner’s circle.

**4188 **spent all of last year proving that 2015 Peachtree was no fluke: they backed up victories in Recycle Rush with a Stronghold success in Columbus, Albany, and Rocket City, where they had the best out-of-district performance of any team in the state. This year, they’ve finished their robot well in advance and the general public can expect a brilliant performance of driver skill and robot climbing. With a 2 second climb, they may be the speediest specialist there. If shooting doesn’t become the most critical facet of qualifications, this team could not only seed first, but dominate in eliminations.

Could have some potential…
**4468 **spent much of last year as a solid contender, and deservedly so. After winning Columbus, they went on to seed first at both Kennesaw and District Championship. However, last year they won with a superb drivetrain and an added-in-season low goal mechanism. Since that drivetrain will no longer give them significant points, they’re going to have to find a way to leverage their passive gear mechanism to score. If things go right, maybe we will see them bring out their gear floor pickup.

Last year’s state champion alliance captain, 4026, may be a sleeper at this event. After consistently improving event after event last year, they broke through at states. This year, they’ve been relatively quiet, but rumors abound of a 50%+ accuracy shooter with a rate of 4-5 balls per second and a complete auton. If those numbers are indeed proven on the field, they will find themselves among the most impressive at the event.

We can’t forget 4910, the other state champion at the event showed great promise at the Atlanta scrimmage. With a sleek, speedy robot, their passive gear mechanism and solid intake may be the key to earning a top seed. Out to prove last year’s victories at Dalton and District Championship we truly indicative of a team on the rise, we expect them to be a top four seed.

Popping up nice and toasty, 5332 has a clean, sleek looking design that’s a stark contrast to last year’s robot. However, unlike last year, much of it is untested, and that could prove to be the difference at Gainesville. If they can put together, test, and finalize their robot quickly, they could prove to be a contender.

After a relatively rough season in 2016, **4189 **is looking to start anew. With a highly accurate shooter, they may be one of only a few teams consistently putting balls into the top goal. With a climber and passive gear mechanism, they could provide themselves a great chance to leave the event with a blue banner.

The wildcards…
With their recently revealed robot, **6325 **may be the best rookie in the state. Although we are not sold on the speed of their mechanisms, it is a classy machine with a climber and mecanum drivetrain. If they can find their footing early on in their FRC career, they may surprise.

**1002 **is another team featuring a mecanum drivetrain, and they’re certainly fast. Although they just have a passive gear mechanism, their shifty drivetrain may be able to avoid the collisions most teams experienced during week zero. If they can dominate the tournament early, look for them to be an alliance captain.

**4941 **has made some pre-tournament noise with a solid drivetrain, simple gear mechanism and grippy climber. Although last year they encountered some struggles, with a trip to DCMP and a returning driver, the extra experience gained last year should help them come out of the gate strong. Look for them to be selected early for eliminations.

I’d also keep an eye on 4026.

As reigning state champs and an impressive looking robot, there’s no reason why they should be discounted.

Here’s a pic: https://imgur.com/7jNpdhq

It’s going to be a good event.

We can assure you or mechanisms will surprise. The reveal video was just a short teaser of what our robot can do. We can’t wait to show you at competition.

Unless someone is bringing us a big slice of cheesecake, the climber isn’t quite that fast, sadly; closer to around 4-5 seconds. xD Looking forward to Gainesville, it’s looking like it’s going to be an awesome event!

Can’t wait for the event! It is truly going to be amazing. Good luck everyone and see you at Gainesville!

While I do agree that just having a strong drivetrain will not get you far in Steamworks, I want to point out that it is still key. With such an open field this year, being able to get across the field quickly with defense is what will make or break gear cycles. That is where I think 4468 will pull ahead, as we have one of the fastest robots I’ve seen so far.

Good luck, it looks like another fun season for all the teams! With the change to districts last year, it was nice getting to know teams and seeing them several times. I look forward to catching up with everyone. Stop by the stands and say Hi.

To clarify, I have seen only a few different robots practice, and cannot speak to how fast our robot is relative to the average drivetrain.

Just realized it hasn’t been mentioned yet, so I’ll go ahead and be the first to predict this: 3265, a team who has seen no semi-final matches nor won any awards since their rookie year in 2010, will make it into playoffs, and I’ll go as far as predicting that they even break into the top 8 at one of their events and captain their own alliance (if they don’t get picked by a higher seed). knocks on wood 3265 is my 2017 sleeper pick!

Any particular reason/evidence behind this prediction?

Team 4941 is looking forward to the opportunity to play with the more dominant teams of Georgia FIRST this weekend at Gainseville! Good luck to all teams, this looks to be a high quality event.

I agree with you prediction. From the pictures I’ve seen, they seem to have a solid build this year!

3265 gained two new mentors to help out this year, and I think Brandon (and I) are showing confidence in them.

The oldest FRC team in Georgia, 832 (OSCAR), has some new tricks.

For the first time ever, they are getting in some real practice time thanks to their successful push to build a second robot. Gears, shooting, climbing, and a nimble drivetrain should help them deliver, if they can pull it all together. With their undefeated FTC team taking the state championship, they’re itching to repeat that in FRC, one event at a time.

See y’all in Gainesville!

I’ll be sure keep an eye out for them this weekend then

Any of y’all who can’t come to Gainesville can watch the live stream here:
Day 1 (Saturday): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bAK0K1_AA7c
Day 2 (Sunday): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gaVv6yZifQ0
Live Scores: http://frc-districtrankings.firstinspires.org/2017/PCH/GAGAI

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Thoughts after day 1?

Day one was rough. Fuel was almost never done. Lots of teams attempted to climb but only a few were consistent. My prediction for playoffs today will be 3 rotors 3 climbs will win. We will also make a stunning comeback :slight_smile: Good luck!

…and they were on the winning alliance, their first blue banner in a couple years. :slight_smile:

Watch out next week at Dalton…

First off, I want to say how impressed I was with both our semifinal and finalist alliance opponents. 4941 literally built one of the five best machines at this event with a shop with a few chop saws and hand tools. Dropping 5-6 gears a match and climbing from match 1 was extremely impressive, and then pairing with powerhouse 4188 and emerging RAS 6325 (that cheesecake job was incredible) was the right move. Of all the alliance we had to go through, this was the one our strategists were sure would come down to the wire.

Second, mad props to 6705, 4112, and 4026 for putting up a great show. In particular, 6705 really blew me away. The best rookie robot at the event by far, they were doing 4-5 gears a match and a climb, and were extremely difficult for our alliance to deal with. I expect great things out of them for the rest of the season and moving forward.

A lot of people who are close to some of the members and mentors of 1648 and 1746 will tell you that the teams are really close, and it’s completely true. Even though 1746 had not gotten in the air before elims, we knew that they would get it working and that, if we were a captain and they were around, we were going to take them. It wasn’t even a debate. We had 110% confidence in them.

832 (Don, you were pretty right) was just that perfect team at the perfect time. In our first match, we had 832 with us, and the first thing out of our lead scouts mouth was “Dang, they have one heck of a drivetrain”. Keeping tabs on them, when they started to hit those clutch climbs, we knew that they were the key to us winning the event. We were thrilled to find them left in the draft.

There were too many close calls, too many losses at the wrong times, and not enough pressure scoring on our end. We’ll be making significant changes to Columbus and hope to have the top goal under wraps at that event.

Lastly, thanks to the volunteers. Of all the Georgia FIRST events I’ve been to, this was by far the best run and the best venue. I’m looking forward to returning again, and hope to see the same quality at Columbus in a couple weeks.